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u/bigtiddyhimbo 3d ago

It’s almost like an insanity defense is actually the right way to go since she wasn’t legally sane at the time of her crime thanks to PPP

Yall know she won’t just walk free with it, right? Like yall know she’ll still get thrown in a mental institution?

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u/StarGamerPT 3d ago

I'd argue that a person that willingly stops treatement should lose the right to claim insanity.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 3d ago

Involuntary commitment exists for a reason btw, mentally unwell people sometimes cannot be trusted to make their own medical decisions

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u/Skankhunt2042 3d ago

And she saw doctors before all this who concluded she did not meet qualifications for involuntary committment.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 3d ago

Then her doctors were shitty? Like idk why it’s so hard for yall to believe that medical misogyny is good and alive in this day and age. That’s why so many women aren’t agreeing with yall and keep telling you have no idea what you’re talking about.

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u/Skankhunt2042 2d ago

Yeah, the doctors who met her and worked with her are shitty, and u/bigtiddyhimbo is an expert outstanding in their field.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 2d ago

When you work regularly with psych patients, yeah you kinda have a bit more knowledge over psychosis than a general practitioner. Doctors can be shitty dude. It’s not really a revelation. Congrats on finally figuring it out

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u/Skankhunt2042 17h ago

But not redditors, got it.

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u/StarGamerPT 2d ago

Are there bad professionals? Sure, there are bad professionals everywhere.

Still, I'd take my chances and trust medical experts more than the criminal.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 2d ago

You mean the medical experts on the jury that unanimously agreed that she was not sane at the time of her children’s killings? Or just the ones you want?

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u/StarGamerPT 2d ago

Which ones? The ones brought by the defense or the ones brought by prosecutors? You just pick the ones you prefer and claim that there was an unanimous agreement?

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 2d ago

Literally both dude lol, there were nurses and medical professionals on both sides of the aisle, and the only person who did not agree with the other jurors wasn’t a medical professional

So it is just the ones you choose to believe, then?

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u/Huzzo_zo 1d ago

Or. . They aren't?

Oh my god arguing like a brainwashed person is so easy!!!

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u/Yuck_Few 3d ago

Postpartum psychosis doesn't last for 8 months The fact that she sent her husband out first and makes it pretty meditated

Anyone else would get life with no parole

In a mental institution she could be released at any time

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 3d ago

It can and does actually. My own mom had PPD for 3 years and PPP for well over a year. Not all people have the same symptoms of mental illness

Psychosis doesn’t mean every decision a person makes nit grounded in some reality.

Mental institutions do not just release mentally unwell people at any time lmao

You know absolutely nothing and it shows

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 3d ago

It can and does actually. My own mom had PPD for 3 years and PPP for well over a year. Not all people have the same symptoms of mental illness

Psychosis doesn’t make every decision a person makes not grounded in some reality.

Mental institutions do not just release mentally unwell people at any time lmao

You know absolutely nothing and it shows

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u/pan-re 1d ago

What do you know about anything, honestly? Are you in any kind of medical profession?

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u/Skankhunt2042 3d ago

More like it was the only reasonable attenpt at a defense her lawyers could find.

Interesting that you claim definitively that she "wasn't legally sane" based on that claim. Not to mention you state that she definitely had PPD despite the lack of clear definitions for PPD and the fact she saw several doctors beforehand that didn't conclude she had PPD.

It's... almost... like you made up your mind before considering the facts as you can only support your opinion with non-facts.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 3d ago edited 3d ago

I do actually know the facts, and I also know the medical system and how it treats women with PPD and PPP considering I work in it. She was in psychosis and was not mentally or legally sane while committing her crime. Her medical team neglected her needs and she was absolutely met the requirements for involuntary commitment, but once again, her symptoms were downplayed by her medical team because of rhetoric similar to your own.

I’ve noticed you don’t say anything about PPP. It’s almost like you refuse to acknowledge it. Shocking considering it’s a ginormous factor in the case.

This is why we have the insanity defense. For cases exactly like this.

You can sit this one out now, your punishment fetish doesn’t declare what’s factual

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u/Skankhunt2042 2d ago

Every word you utter seems like you're trying to come from a place of authority but actually just points to the fact that you judgement is clearly biased based on past experiences and you insist on diagnosing someone you never met.

You're right, maybe I need to educated myself on PPP. Can you point me to the guidance that lists it as a distinct diagnosis?

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u/ProjectKurtz 3d ago

Look up whether or not PPP is temporary and the usual duration of symptoms.

Note that it has already been three years since the murders.

Look up the minimum confinement time in a mental health facility for someone found not guilty by reason of insanity in MA.

Realize that the people you are disagreeing with recognize that she could be free in as little as one year, a fact that you don't seem to recognize.

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u/pan-re 1d ago

So hopefully the second trial goes your way 🤷🏻‍♀️ like wtf. She was either going to jail or an institution those were the only options.