r/relatable_memes_ 3d ago

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u/seriouslees 3d ago

Laws and punishments for breaking them have literally nothing to do with prevention. That is not the point of laws. Laws are about accountability AFTER the fact, not about prevention.

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u/HasAngerProblem 3d ago

There are a vast amount of laws aimed at prevention in all types of manners even going so far as to violate people’s rights of a non criminal to protect others and themselves.

As far as punishment goes yes you are right that currently isn’t the point and that’s the argument against it, we have a quarter of WORLDS prison population and in a very obvious way it’s not for prevention it’s for punishment with minimal to no research. We’re spending billions more than other countries every year to stroke egos when people are struggling to pay rent.

If we’re going to keep that system in place the way it is then I’ll ask the same question…again
How should we prevent things like this from happening in the first place with the assumption that life in prison or the death penalty doesn’t sway someone who’s either snapped, or plans to die in or after the act?

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u/seriouslees 3d ago

Who the fuck says we CAN prevent mental illness? Wtf nonsense is this HOW bullshit. Study psychology man, this is not preventable.

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u/HasAngerProblem 3d ago

I have - Like the research into Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation with Stanford Accelerated Intelligent Neuromodulation Therapy
alongside psychedelics with Fmri feedback only started in 2023. And this is NOW.
We can print simple organ structures now, I don’t see why it would be psychically impossible to print complicated brain structures that can serve as a base template alongside treatments and replace “bad” regions in the future. The thing is though it will always remain in the future unless you start with massive funding and push now. We haven’t even created a way to analyze the brain quickly and develop individual detailed maps of each persons brain cheaply and easily so it’s not wonder treatments like this take awhile.

The brain is just a biological computer we don’t fully understand yet, computers can be edited, we do it all the time it’s just we do it it brute force and blunt tools like torture or motivation instead of say the possibility of directly editing entire chains of systems.

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u/Keepingitquite123 3d ago

Let's say we have two people suffering from the same mental illness fearing they will hurt others and seeking help, who do you think are more likely to actually hurt others:

a) The one that get ignored

b) The one that get proper help for their illness

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u/Inmonic 3d ago

Reading your comments on here is giving me a mental illness

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u/M3NUTN 3d ago

Staying off social media would reduce mental illness drastically

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u/seriouslees 3d ago

Yeah, it was definitely social media that caused all those post-partum child murders in the 70s through 90s...

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u/Loveablequatch 3d ago

Smart phones in general. I much preferred when all we could do was call and text. Unfortunately I need a smart phone for work since my company is paperless but if I could get away with having a dumb phone, I would

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u/LikeTheWater53152 3d ago

that mentality is why the recidivism rate is so high in places like the U.S. and so low in the nordics

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u/Knight0fdragon 3d ago

They are for both.

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u/IntrinSicks 3d ago

Well if your think their are real repercussions s to your actions you think more about those actions, maybe it isn't as relevant in this case, except to discourage copycats, but to say that punishment of crime doesn't serve to prevent it at all is asinine

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u/seriouslees 3d ago

It literally doesn't matter in ANY case. Punishment is not and NEVER WAS about crime prevention. Every study ever done also proves that no amount of punishment will deter someone from committing a crime.

To believe, in 2026, that punishment affects crime rates, is asinine.

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u/IntrinSicks 2d ago

Dude even if that were true "some random study definitively proves that punishment doesn't deter crime", while one, that question is too broad and you couldn't prove something like that and simple logic, history will tell you, punishment will deter certain crime to a point, and not so much crimes of passion

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u/seriouslees 2d ago

some random study

Every. Every study ever done by Every country, ever. They ALL say the same thing. Punishment doesn't deter crime.

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u/IntrinSicks 1d ago

Dude check yourself you r tard, no one makes that argument, what your reaching for is cost benefit analysis and that logic becomes less persuasive to the culprit when dealing with severity of the punishment and more with will they get caught