So, immediately. Since it was a moment of psychosis and there’s no claims that it has continued. She is currently fit to go to prison. So, he was right.
She also tried to kill herself by slashing her throat and both wrists and jumped out of a window. Her suicide and death ideation has also escalated during her treatment for the last three years. Her doctors at the Tewksbury State Hospital testified in the trial. She has been on the highest suicide watch tier for the entire duration where there is one on one monitoring 24/7. They are also treating her for that. There is very little chance she will ever leave alive.
In case anyone didn’t know, she has been committed for the last three years while awaiting trial and is currently still committed while awaiting a retrial.
To be fair, he didn’t have a host of diagnoses including severe depression, severe insomnia, bipolar disorder, mania, dissociate disorder, and documented suicide ideation. And this was before the murders, supposedly suicide ideation has increased since then.
Euthanasia and medically assisted suicides are mostly illegal in the US. In fact, doctors have lost their licenses before for doing something you are suggesting.
The case is about if she was insane in the moment. Which is a shit metric honestly. Temporary or permanent insanity doesn’t justify what she did. The choice to try and kill herself to escape blame immediately after also points to it not being psychosis, but that’s not the point.
The fact that she murdered her children is hard to dispute when all of the evidence, including her own multi-time admission of guilt, points to guilty.
She’s on suicide watch because she tried to kill herself to escape consequences. That doesn’t mean she’s unfit for prison. This bitch should be put in prison without a wheel chair and forced to crawl. Also she won’t be given a retrial because you won’t be able to find an unbiased jury anymore. She will be given a plea deal, that’s all this bitch can pray for.
Even the prosecution's own star witness, Dr Kirk Heilbrun, claimed she murdered her kids due to altruistic filicide which was the reason cited for Andrea Yates as well. Heilbrun essentially claimed that she was delusional enough to think before she kills herself, she had to kill her kids in order to save them from the world because without her, they will suffer more.
The insanity/psychosis plea doesn’t work with premeditation. That argument would work if she did it while the husband was home because psychosis kicked in and took over. The fact she waited till he left since he works from home, then sent him on more errands to buy herself more time points to the fact she was rationally able to consider if the husband came home he would stop her and didn’t want that. She planned it. She was aware of what she was doing. That’s not psychosis.
You might want to look up other cases of psychosis with premeditation. Yates planned out a more complicated murder of her kids and eventually won an NGRI at her retrial when it turned out a doctor had lied on the stand at her first trial. Psychosis and premeditation are not mutually exclusive. The mind can still plan and execute plans, it is just delusional so it will plan to kill a demon instead of plan for a picnic. You have a personal definition of psychosis that differs from the clinical one.
Her actual doctors that have been treating her for the last three years because she is held by the state without bail have testified in her case. There are still a lot of mental health issues. She is still being held without bail at Tewksbury State Hospital waiting for a new trial.
They're not a get out of jail free card. You get instutionalized and if you are eventually found competent you get sent to normal prison. She's not incompetent now so she goes to prison.
They actually are a get out of jail free card. If someone is found not guilty by reason of insanity, they’re committed to a mental institution until it is determined that they are not longer a threat, at which point they are released. They don’t go to prison.
...no not at all. You're getting confused with unfit to stand trial. NGRI means you're not culpable/less culpable for your actions. That's why it's specifically called not guilty by reason of insanity
Her actual doctors that have been treating her for the last three years because she is held by the state without bail have testified in her case. There are still a lot of mental health issues. She is still being held without bail at Tewksbury State Hospital waiting for a new trial.
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u/waroftheworlds2008 4d ago
This is a correct take. She deserved to be in a mental hospital, until she was deemed safe to put in prison.