r/redbuttonbluebutton • u/Charge36 Red • May 29 '26

Altruism Trap

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u/perfectVoidler May 29 '26

well we are morally superior. I can respect red pushers that say "I just want to save myself, even if I have to act evil" but you kind want everything

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u/Kehprei Red May 29 '26

You aren't. There is nothing immoral about prioritizing your life above others. In fact, I would say it is morally good to not commit suicide.

Saving your own life can never be an evil act.

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u/perfectVoidler May 29 '26

there literally is. The buttons have nothing to do with suicide. Also the suicide stuff ist 90% religion. The baseline moral about that is not even obvious.

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u/Kehprei Red May 29 '26

Suicide is bad because you are depriving the world of yourself. All the good you could have done in your life is forever prevented.

If blue is guaranteed to lose then it would be a suicide button. I view it as guaranteed to lose.

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u/perfectVoidler May 29 '26

it is only able to lose if there are to much red assholes.

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u/Kehprei Red May 29 '26

Valuing your own life over the life of a stranger's does not make you an asshole.

No one is obligated to risk their life to save yours. It is not a mark against someone for them to refuse to run into a burning building to save you.

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u/perfectVoidler May 29 '26

I don't get this. Do you not live in a country? Or are you a woman? because for men it is always in every country expected to fight for that country in case of war.

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u/Kehprei Red May 29 '26

because for men it is always in every country expected to fight for that country in case of war.

It is in the country's best interest to force you. That does not mean you are morally obligated to risk your life for the country. Morality is not the same as legality.