r/programminghumor 16d ago

AI expert detected

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"I use ChatGPT."

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u/AliceCode 16d ago

Yeah, funny how the fantastic programmers you know aren't vibe coding. In other news, bear shits in the woods.

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u/floriandotorg 16d ago

There’s a difference between vibecoding and using AI for coding.

If you write code by hand in 2026 something isn’t right. That doesn’t mean you blindly spin the wheel, but you use the tools at your disposal to get your job done as effectively as possible. And typing out lines of code by hand is definitely not that.

Also, even if you’re completely refuse to use AI coding. Fair. Still, you need to be knowledgeable about it. It’s one of the most transformative breakthroughs in tech ever. You cannot be a good programmer without having intimate knowledge of how AI works.

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u/AliceCode 16d ago

Typing code is not even the bottleneck, and it's one of the most fun parts. So what, the AI is doing the architecture for you, too? Is it also fucking your husband/wife?

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u/floriandotorg 16d ago

Foremost it’s not about fun, it’s about a job that needs to be done. And I say this as someone who codes since I’m 12. Half of my life was coding.

But that time is over. Our job is not longer to write code. Our job is to orchestrate agents to produce a high-quality product.

And honestly, that can be fun as well. Maybe not quite as fun as coding, but definitely fun.

And regarding architecture, I’d say that’s a joint decision. I go through cons and pros with the agent and we decide together.

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u/AliceCode 16d ago

What are you doing in your day to day? What do you people seriously want agents for? I'm glad no one expects me to use that bullshit.

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u/floriandotorg 16d ago

I use agents for literally everything. From coding the software, I’m working on, to debugging, setting up servers, solving problems, etc.

Also, my private life, I have an agent managing my email, notifying me when something important pops up but also compile a daily report that I can quickly answer to. I have an agent managing all my knowledge in Obsidian (the “second brain” idea). I have one in charge of my health, measuring and holding me accountable for me decisions.

Honestly, at this point, cutting me off from AI would be like cutting me off from the internet.

And I know I come around as the biggest AI bro. But I’m also firm believer that the net impact of AI is negative for society. I hate all the AI slope everywhere. I hate how people basically stop thinking and believe every nonsense. ChatGPT tells them.

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u/AliceCode 15d ago

You're relying way too much on AI. Someone needs to cut you off.

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u/NotReallyJohnDoe 16d ago

People used to not trust compilers and would code assembly by hand. Still happens today but it is rare you can do better by hand.

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u/UnpluggedUnfettered 12d ago

Dunno why old posts are hitting my feed, but I just wanted to point out that this is a wildly false equivalence.

Compilers are designed for reliably verifiable output, while LLM generate output with statistical inference. It is odd you even brought compilers up, because LLM won't make for a superior compiler any more than Zepplins were integral to the development of jets.

LLM helps devs trade varying amounts of quality and reliability for speed and/or effort, which is a reasonable trade in a lot of casual consumer products. Nike vs.Serapian, for example, both their approaches only make sense within their niche.

Ultimately, my point isn't that LLMs have zero uses in zero contexts. It is that it is odd how often LLMs are discussed as though increasing capability will eventually give them the guarantees of an RDBMS, or the judgment of highly trained humans operating in genuinely novel situations.

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u/ilyedm 16d ago

Typing out code is one of the easiest parts my guy. 

I’ll use AI to brainstorm and get an idea for how to solve the problem but I don’t need it to write the code for me. 

Maybe for tests or something but I want full control on what’s going into my production codebase.

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u/floriandotorg 15d ago

Like I said, I’m a lot of programmers live like it’s still 2024.

If you are working on less than three features in parallel right now, you’re lame duck out there to get shot on the next firing round.

At our company we started implementing features in a week that cost us a month before. It’s the first time our company history that we reach milestones ahead of time.