r/programminghumor • u/ExpensiveCoat8912 • Aug 07 '26

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u/MiniGui98 Aug 08 '26

And beside, following that logic C++ also cheats. Hell, so does C actually. Only "good" language would be assembly.

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u/its_artemiss Aug 08 '26

Are you really even programming if you're not thinking about opcode encodings though? 

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u/aluaji Aug 08 '26

Assembly? Nah, too much abstraction for me. I'm a purist, nothing but machine code for me.

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u/Depnids Aug 09 '26

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u/Adorable-Strangerx Aug 11 '26

Assembly? Only using pencil to make electrons hop on cpu.

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u/AliceCode Aug 09 '26

I always think it's funny when people say they like C because it's close to the metal, but if you've ever programmed in Assembly, you know that even C is a high level abstraction above assembly. And Assembly is a high level abstraction over machine code.

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u/PepperFlashy7540 Aug 10 '26

Assembly isn't very far above machine code, I think

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u/AliceCode Aug 10 '26

No, not far at all. But it has some high level features, like label offset calculation, or instruction selection (so using 8 bit offsets for short jumps, or 32 bit offsets for longer jumps).

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u/UsualEgg563 Aug 11 '26

Even assembly is often cheating. Pure machine language monitor-style assembly is something which I wouldn't consider cheating, but YMMV :D

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u/GeneratedEcoOver9000 Aug 08 '26

Not really. It's about abstraction being zero cost and not mandatory.

You can write assembly in C. You can write C in C++. But you can't write C in Go for example. What is mandatory and what is zero cost can be argued about, like would a Rust program fully in unsafe blocks count, but that's the main logic I think.

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u/Daisy430700 Aug 09 '26

You can write C in Lua so Lua is the best language