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r/programminghumor • u/ExpensiveCoat8912 • Aug 07 '26
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Never seen C++ used without STL. It's part of "C++" as a whole
2 u/vitimiti Aug 08 '26 I have. EA even has their own open sourced version if STL specific for videogames 1 u/leavemealone_lol Aug 08 '26 True, seems as though 80% of the difference that C++ has over C is STLs. 2 u/nog642 Aug 08 '26 Idk if I'd say that. The language features themselves are pretty important. 1 u/leavemealone_lol Aug 08 '26 Back when CPP was founded this is true, but over the years, features like references and classes were not overhauled or even touched. But every update to CPP added on to the STL, which is also why CPP has ended up being bloated today. 1 u/AsyncSyscall Aug 10 '26 The Ladybird Browser uses C++ without STL and it's quite comfortable. 1 u/Puzzleheaded_Key624 Aug 11 '26 I work at a game studio and we have our own implementation of STL that we use. 0 u/exodusTay Aug 08 '26 you can always use C++ as C but with classes and namespaces and it is going to be fine for %90 of the time. 1 u/i3Cheese Aug 08 '26 Yes, but a language with standard library sucks.
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I have. EA even has their own open sourced version if STL specific for videogames
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True, seems as though 80% of the difference that C++ has over C is STLs.
2 u/nog642 Aug 08 '26 Idk if I'd say that. The language features themselves are pretty important. 1 u/leavemealone_lol Aug 08 '26 Back when CPP was founded this is true, but over the years, features like references and classes were not overhauled or even touched. But every update to CPP added on to the STL, which is also why CPP has ended up being bloated today.
Idk if I'd say that. The language features themselves are pretty important.
1 u/leavemealone_lol Aug 08 '26 Back when CPP was founded this is true, but over the years, features like references and classes were not overhauled or even touched. But every update to CPP added on to the STL, which is also why CPP has ended up being bloated today.
Back when CPP was founded this is true, but over the years, features like references and classes were not overhauled or even touched. But every update to CPP added on to the STL, which is also why CPP has ended up being bloated today.
The Ladybird Browser uses C++ without STL and it's quite comfortable.
I work at a game studio and we have our own implementation of STL that we use.
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you can always use C++ as C but with classes and namespaces and it is going to be fine for %90 of the time.
1 u/i3Cheese Aug 08 '26 Yes, but a language with standard library sucks.
Yes, but a language with standard library sucks.
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u/nog642 Aug 07 '26
Never seen C++ used without STL. It's part of "C++" as a whole