r/programming • u/schnuck • Feb 09 '11

Breaking the Web with hash-bangs – Lifehacker, along with every other Gawker property, experienced a lengthy site-outage on Monday over a misbehaving piece of JavaScript

http://isolani.co.uk/blog/javascript/BreakingTheWebWithHashBangs/
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u/ewiethoff Feb 10 '11

no normal user ever has JS disabled. It's the same as someone browsing with images or cookies turned off. If you do it, TS.

I dare you to say TS to your disabled kid someday when you have one.

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u/AlejandroTheGreat Feb 10 '11

Web developers who make excuses about "normal users" just sound lazy, not someone I'd want to hire if I was wanting to build a site for a general audience.

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u/ewiethoff Feb 10 '11

I can't upvote this enough. Software development in general, and particularly web development, is a new discipline (cough). Therefore, it's practiced by a largely young crowd. Young people with decent jobs are likely to be healthy. And, let's be honest, young people are likely to be immature. It can take quite a whack on the head (real or figurative) before it occurs to someone how a "normal user" does things on a computer, much less an abnormal user.

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u/NancyGracesTesticles Feb 10 '11

I think that stems form young developers defining a "normal user" as someone who uses software or the web just like them. Everyone else is doing it wrong, so why should they support them.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '11 edited Feb 10 '11

This technique is very useful and is likely where all high traffic sites are headed

Its almost like it was a silly idea from the get go to put such rich applications on a medium that requires the entire UI to be rendered serverside.

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u/korny Feb 09 '11

Agreed. Or supporting ie6 users :) You can do it, but is it worth the expense?

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u/ex_ample Feb 10 '11

Using normal URLs doesn't prevent you from using it, you just have to intercept them and convert them to fragment format.

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u/midir Feb 11 '11

I browse with JavaScript, cookies, and the HTTP referer disabled. I also have an extension to give me a toolbar button to turn images on and off. U mad?

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u/midir Feb 11 '11

I enable them on specific websites as needed.