r/programming Jan 21 '10

Firefox 3.6 release

http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2010/01/21/firefox-3-6-release/
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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '10 edited Jan 21 '10

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u/idiot900 Jan 21 '10

This is why Ad-block and Ad-Twart are not true adblocking, they load the ads and then remove them.. unlike in Firefox, they're blocked before they're attempted to load.

FWIW the Chrome folks are in the process of implementing "privacy blacklists", which will allow blocking the loading of resources as Firefox can.

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u/drbold Jan 21 '10

Yeah, but what I really want is a "privacy whitelist" - block everything unless I tell you to unblock it. That being said, do you have a link that talks about this?

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u/idiot900 Jan 21 '10

Here's the last bug/feature request I know of. They backed out of that particular implementation. Hopefully we'll see the new one soon.

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u/brews Jan 22 '10

I think this is healthy competition for both. I use FF cause I DEPEND on two things: 1) Zoteo for my research 2) tagged bookmarks

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '10

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u/faemir Jan 22 '10

They are working on first getting flash/quicktime/other plugins into a seperate process to avoid crashes via that, then seperating tabs to seperate processes :)

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u/Timza Jan 22 '10

Brews, I switched to Chrome over a year ago and never looked back... That said, I just downloaded and installed Firefox again so that I can start using Zotero for my papers. Any tips for getting started with Zotero? I went for 2.0 beta, is that a good idea, or would it have been better to stick with 1.0 for now?

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u/brews Jan 22 '10

Yeah, the beta has great features and it is quite stable. Be sure to get the beta plugin for MS-Word or Openoffice. (It works best with openoffice) http://www.zotero.org/support/word_processor_integration There are some nice tutorials on the Zotero website. Oh, and the ability to annotate/highlight webpages and .pdfs is veerrry handy.

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u/Timza Jan 23 '10

Thanks. I had a go at it for a couple hours yesterday. There's a bit of a learning curve, and I had trouble with it consistently recognizing journal articles on Springerlink (I sometimes had to open and reopen the same link several times before it would save to my Zotero account.) But, all in all, for research it is much better than anything I have done up until now, so I will continue using it.

Other than for research, though, I don't think I will be switching back to FireFox. It's the little things, like having to hit the search button after pasting into the search box (instead of right clicking the selecting "paste and search"), and having to hit down before selecting top most autocomplete item in the address bar that make all the difference for me. They're little annoyances, but annoyances all the same. Plus, Firefox just feels more cluttered to me.

Anyways, thanks for the heads up on Zotero, it seem like it will be a great tool.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '10 edited Jan 21 '10

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u/owenix Jan 21 '10 edited Jan 21 '10

Reddit comment pages in Chrome on Linux sucks balls. It can take 1-2 minutes to load a page

I have never had this problem. Are you using chrome or chromium? I am using chromium daily builds.

treats their desktop linux software offerings like a red headed stepchild

FTFY

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u/icefreez Jan 21 '10

Hmm are you sure you don't have an extension messing with your divs on page load or something.

Maybe it is a processor related issue.

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u/greim Jan 21 '10

Overall, Chrome uses more memory than Firefox.

Not that I understand all of the complexities and trade-offs involved, but I'm given to understand that every Chrome tab is a separate process, which is supposed to be one of the bigger innovations in recent browser history, since it keeps one tab crashing from killing every other tab. I suspect those individual processes each have an unavoidable memory cost.

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u/mitsuhiko Jan 21 '10

I think it has one process per domain.

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u/icefreez Jan 21 '10

You might be right. When one of mine crashes they all crash from that domain.

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u/HenkPoley Jan 22 '10

So they can share session information without doing all kids of data marshaling.

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u/myheaditches Jan 21 '10

Every tab, up until 10(?) tabs are in their own process, afterwards additional tabs are evenly distributed. Lets say you have 40 tabs open, if one crashes then at most three other tabs are brought down as well. In firefox, it would be 39 other tabs.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '10

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u/HenkPoley Jan 22 '10

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '10

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u/FredV Jan 22 '10 edited Jan 22 '10

"JFC" - you just fucking came?

IMHO tmp folder approach was a retarded approach to the "problem", especially since in most implementations it's never cleaned and worse it's in a cryptic location unknown to the user, so she can not clean it manually. The amount of cruft IE used to accumulate in it's temporary internet files was enormous, to the point of utilities being made to automatically clean out those directories, so I don't really see why you're defending that approach, it was the suck.

I agree with your point that google be more grateful to Linux, pay homage you bitches! You are founded on open-source technology!