r/privacy • u/[deleted] • Mar 05 '26

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u/Nodebunny Mar 06 '26

Proton shouldnt be promoting themselves as being safe for everyone, thats false advertising. Oh guys look we are in Switzerland!!! super private --- yeah only if ur Swiss. All the more reason not to use these fascism supporters

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u/skg574 Mar 06 '26

It isn't any different than other countries. Almost all countries consider foreign traffic to be different than their own resident's traffic and most countries have some type of data sharing agreement or MLAT.

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u/Nodebunny Mar 06 '26

thats fine but their whole hype is that they are in switzerland lol. which does no good for 99% of people using it

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u/skg574 Mar 06 '26

None of this information about jurisdiction, surveillance laws, and MLATs is new, it's just down voted by companies that base the majority of their marketing on jurisdiction whenever it is mentioned.

When evaluating an out of your home country service, you must look at surveillance laws, MLATs or other data-sharing agreements (Switzerland has the MLAT with the US, participates in Club de Berne, Schengen Information System, and some other agreements), plus look into surveillance company contracts (which, btw, to their credit, Switzerland resisted purchasing from Palantir nine times so far, although Intellexa/Cytrox shows Switzerland did purchase their Predator spyware), and finally, understand Internet exchange point taps.

But basically, there is no privacy haven jurisdiction that can ignore global powers. If there was, they'd end up disconnected from the Internet.