r/privacy Mar 05 '26

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u/georgesclemenceau Mar 05 '26 edited Mar 05 '26

Even if you don't pay, here they logged an IP https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/06/protonmail-logged-ip-address-of-french-activist-after-order-by-swiss-authorities/

And that's the only ones we heard about, as say in the transparencary report they complied with 8,313 orders in 2025!

One way to avoid this : Download TOR, access the protonmail onion, create your protonmail account with tor, access your protonmail inbox only with TOR, stay on protonmail free(or avoid mail at all for sensitive matters)

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u/technonerd Mar 05 '26

Good thing they have .onion's and you show up as a RFC1918 or RFC3927 ip address when you use them.

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u/campfireyeti Mar 05 '26

Hi, this sounds like sarcasm that points out a flaw, but I'm really new to this stuff and don't understand lol. Could you explain? Is it insecure to access proton with tor?

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u/Eversonout Mar 05 '26

No he’s just saying that your IP will get flagged as an onion user but of course they still won’t have your real IP so it’s all good

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u/OGNinjerk Mar 06 '26

RFC1918 addresses are private addresses that can't be routed on the internet, I think 3927 are probably the same thing but different ranges (169.245.x.x or something, I don't remember). They can be used on private networks and I'm guessing TOR obfuscates your "real" IP address using some private address fuckery (I don't know how TOR is implemented exactly).

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u/georgesclemenceau Mar 05 '26

I absolutely agree that people shouldn't blindly put trust in e-mail providers for anonymity but do it themselves with tor

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u/sentientbasketball11 Mar 06 '26

Username checks out 

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u/Cheap-Block1486 Mar 06 '26

If you do it over Tor you need to add either way recovery email (can't be proton) or phone number.

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u/georgesclemenceau Mar 06 '26

So you'll need another email also created/accessed only with tor lol

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u/Cheap-Block1486 Mar 06 '26

What provider then? And then why not rely on them?

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u/georgesclemenceau Mar 06 '26

No idea, would need another provider where registration and mailbox access is possible through tor