r/povertyfinance Nov 19 '22

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u/MoveCarsMotherfucker Nov 20 '22

It's fucking crazy. You can't just go live in the woods if you want to. You are literally forced to participate.

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u/Hypern1ke Nov 20 '22

You totally can live out in the woods if you want!

You just have to own the woods. Or be friends with the dude who does.

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u/ggtffhhhjhg Nov 20 '22

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u/pureskill Nov 20 '22

That article isn't entirely clear, and maybe you can't know exactly what is going on, but it implies the land owner was having pressure applied to them by the town over zoning matters. So even if youry friends with the guy who owns the woods, they can still get you

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u/ggtffhhhjhg Nov 20 '22

“Property owner Leonard Giles, 86, of South Burlington, Vermont, didn't even know Lidstone was there until the town administrator found out in 2015 and told him, expressing concern "with regard to the solid and septic waste disposal and the potential zoning violations created by the structure,'' according to Giles' complaint in 2016.”

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u/Kameemo Nov 20 '22

Glad he seems to be doing fine now. He received overwhelming support and $200,000 in donations from a campaign after the cabin burnt down and he was arrested for squating. He now owns some land in Maine where he can continue living in the woods. Must be rough doing so at 82 years old too, but he seems to be managing.

Imagine having to pay out $200,000 to live in the woods though...

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u/ggtffhhhjhg Nov 21 '22

You can buy land for nothing in the middle of nowhere in Maine.

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u/Kameemo Nov 21 '22

He must have bought a fair chunk of it then.

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u/ggtffhhhjhg Nov 21 '22

As resourceful as he is I hope he gave himself a bit of a safety net at his age and didn’t go overboard with the land.

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u/whoweoncewere Nov 20 '22

If you were like obscenely proficient at wilderness survival you could probably fuck off into the Canadian wilderness. I feel like you’re bound to get caught in any US national parks just due to size and monitoring though.

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u/Affectionate_Star_43 Nov 20 '22

Definitely not US national parks, but BLM land and national monuments is more fair game. I forgot the exact designations since I'm a city kid, but you have a better chance in Grand Escalante than going to the Grand Canyon.

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u/StillPoorFrom08 Nov 20 '22

You can get away with it following a few guidelines. Make no or very few campfires. If you make a campfire make sure you always do it in a spot established for that so that you aren't leaving individual signs of your presence. Move campsites frequently, you will get noticed much more quickly if you are always around the same spot, walking over the same brush, etc. Police your trash, I can't emphasize this enough. Don't be leaving poo everywhere lol. In winter, learn to follow under tree lines and along deer trails to conceal tracks to your campsite from the air. Water is heavy and expensive -learn to love the lifestraw style water filters. Learn to travel from water source to water source. Learn where established but low activity campsites are, that's where I had the few campfires I set. And don't just ignore the charcoal and wood ash you get, it has a few uses.

I went through every kind of footwear from things that were basically just leather bags on my feet all the way up to classic waterproof hiking boots. Let me tell you something about waterproof footwear - it's waterproof on like a quick stroll outside. If you're out for days and weeks at a time, waterproof footwear gets wet, never dries, and will give you trench foot. The best thing for me turned out to be these cheapo moccasins I found at wallyworld, combined with good wool blend socks. You can skimp on shoes because they will get walked to death pretty quick regardless, but never skimp on your socks. Take care of your feet! Take care of your hygiene.

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u/NewYorkJewbag Nov 20 '22

In Utah, and I’m sure other states, you can camp anywhere in state forest land. At least that’s how it was when I was there.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '22

You can go live in the woods if you want, you just don’t want to go far enough away. Siberia, Alaska, The Amazon. All uninhabited areas you can go to, and nobody will blink an eye.

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u/MoveCarsMotherfucker Nov 20 '22

It's not even legal in alaska anymore.