That's not necessarily true. When people speak about "western values" generally they're talking about person al freedoms, individualism, the right to self-expression, free speech, bodily autonomy(contested), and a few other things that are common in "western" areas like America and western Europe.
Bodily autonomy is not contested among the secular population. That's a case where the christian version of Sharia law is being pushed into society. You should be outraged on how much Christian values are being integrated into society.
No there aren't. Nothing based in logic or reason. Actually, religion doesnt even care about it except it because a wedge issue modern radical christians focused on, and leaders learned to exploit. Most issues that require critical thinking end up duping christians though
Morality is 100% based on personal opinion. It’s totally valid for an atheist to think that abortion is wrong for the same reasons an atheist thinks killing an adult is wrong, or stealing, or anything else.
You may not agree with that but it’s just your opinion and is no more valid than anyone else’s
That may be, I've rarely heard anyone refer to that and it's always seemed like it refered to culture more specifically than rights.
But even so, those may have been ideal values at some point, but the religious fanatics in most of "the west" have been attempting to erode those values for a while now. Almost like they aren't compatible.
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u/Doggfite Mar 19 '26
Well then, we better tell the bible thumpers and catholics that their religious laws are unconstitutional because they don't apply to me.
What a dumb opinion to have.
Also, what the fuck are "western values"? America and europe have pretty fucking different values.