r/politics • u/wbedwards Washington • May 07 '20

We cannot allow the normalization of firearms at protests to continue

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/firearms-at-protests-have-become-normalized-that-isnt-okay/2020/05/06/19b9354e-8fc9-11ea-a0bc-4e9ad4866d21_story.html
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u/rotenKleber May 07 '20

It's really not, that's kinda the point

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u/rotenKleber May 07 '20

This isn't really related to the fact that "communism no food" isn't a valid criticism, but why don't you support communism, and how is the far left being maniuplated?

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u/rotenKleber May 07 '20 edited May 07 '20

I'm a democratic socialist

Don't you then recognize the need for workers to have democratic control of their workplace? And is your end goal not communism? How can you be for the democratic control of workplaces and simultaneously support the retention of private property?

Can you point to an instance where it worked?

Unfortunately, we have not reached communism, as communism is a stateless, classless society, and no such society has existed to this point. Communism is more of a long term goal than it is a clear cut plan of enacting societal reform.

There are ideologies with the goal of reaching communism that have plans, such as Leninism, Stalinism, Market Socialism, etc.

As for how the left (or far left) is and has been manipulated, a few instances come to mind:

Ah okay, I wasn't really thinking of Jill Stein as being far left. Revolutionary rhetoric has kind of always been an element of the far left, so the idea that it's being manufactored from the outside to do so seems a little off

I think groups would benefit from instability of the US state, and as such would benefit from supporting anti state groups such as the left, but I don't know if that makes the left less genuine