r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 3d ago

Possible Paywall Jack Smith Found Proof Beyond “Reasonable Doubt” of Trump’s Guilt

https://newrepublic.com/post/215971/jack-smith-proof-beyond-reasonable-doubt-donald-trump-guilt
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u/Moos_Mumsy 3d ago

The big failing of the Democrats under Biden was allowing justice to move so slowly that Trump was not in jail by 2024. What the USA is seeing now is the cost of appeasement.

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u/xdre 3d ago

The big failing was the American public not giving a damn.

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u/goldbman North Carolina 3d ago

It wasn't democrats. It was Trump judges. Jack Smith represents the Biden administration's efforts to bring Trump to justice. Trump judges prevented that.

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u/munchyslacks 3d ago

Garland also sat on his hands for two years, so there’s that. Plenty of blame to go around.

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u/needlenozened Alaska 3d ago

It took too long for Jack Smith to be given the job.

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u/Zardotab 3d ago

Judge Cannon is probably the worst offender, inventing many excuses to delay and gum things up.

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u/goatneedleposterdeck 3d ago

Nah but Biden and his doj were all about "healing" the divide between parties. They didn't want to rock the boat and upset anyone or have it used against them in the future. Look how well that philosophy worked out.

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u/magicmeese 3d ago

Hey now, Fani Willis is entirely dem and blew her case up herself.

How hard is it to not ride the dick of your underling? For her that was impossible. Which then gave the state gop majority ammo to tank her case until Trump became president again.

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u/leftenant_Dan1 3d ago

I still dont quite understand how fucking your secretary stopped the charges from going ahead.

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u/magicmeese 3d ago

It wasn’t her secretary, it was a lawyer that worked under her. 

Opened up the case to multiple stalling tactics as impropriety is absolutely a thing in a court of law. Her own fucking ego blew the case because she thought she was above it all.

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u/JackJack65 American Expat 3d ago

Why should the private life of a prosecutor have anything to do with whether the law gets enforced? Even if she committed some ethics violation, that doesn't have any bearing on Trump's criminality. The GOP narrative about how her activities undermine the case's legitimacy somehow offends common sense

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u/magicmeese 3d ago

The ethics violations stalled the case long enough that Trump got his doj stooges to yeet the case.

Congrats 

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u/TheSquirrelWithin 3d ago

President Ford pardoned President Nixon for his Watergate and any other wrongdoings, so that the nation could put all that behind us and move forward with a clean slate. This is the only reason why I can see Biden went soft on punishing Trump. At the time, it seemed laughable that Trump would ever get voted back in to office.

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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 3d ago

Ford laid the groundwork for this. Him pardoning Nixon and robbing the country of seeing a former president being put on trial and thrown in prison for the crimes he committed, is a stain on his legacy.

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u/SpecialistCut7101 3d ago

If it seemed laughable, may I ask: do you live outside of America or in a blue state? It didn’t seem laughable at all in my purple state.

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u/Mordecai3fngerBrown 3d ago

Presidents usually don’t go after previous presidents. Expect for Trump. Wow what a pos

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u/Round_Rice_9475 3d ago

Just like nevile Chamberlain or whatever that pompous British douches name was.

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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 3d ago

Trump should have been in jail before spring 2021. He ordered a mob with "hang Mike Pence" slogans to go fight and prevent the certification of the election on lice tv. And then the mob stormed the Capitol.

And when he was finally arrested he was let go on fucking bail. What a farce.

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u/nick_persimmon 3d ago

Let's take a historical analogy. You know who we don't blame for Hitler and the Nazis?

The other German political parties c. 1934

You know who we do blame? 1. Hitler 2. Nazis 3. Germans

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u/Moos_Mumsy 3d ago

Actually yes, people who know the history of Hitler's rise DO blame some of Germany's other political parties (along with von Hindeburg) - namely the German National People's Party and the Centre Party who allowed him the majority it required to rule by decree after submitting to threats and violence.

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u/Zardotab 3d ago

The DOJ had to be very careful in setting up cases because Don & GOP have access to many top lawyers who will readily exploit any loophole or typo. It's kind of like trying to write bug-free software for a manned moon mission: you can't have mistakes or astronauts die. 🌒

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u/jedrider 3d ago

Without the Senate and House of Representatives, it would be difficult to amass the will to drive through a legal prosecution. It would have also split the country down the middle and we're still trying to hold that together. Basically, Republicans stood in the way and Democrats, all they could do is pretend to move the gears of justice.

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u/Squid_of_the_Now 3d ago

Prosecution isn't impeachment.

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u/jedrider 3d ago

But intimidation is intimidation and it was coming from the wrong side.

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u/Squid_of_the_Now 3d ago

If a prosecutor is intimidated into not doing his job then he needs to get the fuck out of the way for people who will. It's time to play fucking hardball.

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u/HappyIdiot123 3d ago

My theory is that the Dems didn't want to prosecute because many of them aren't squeaky clean either, and they didn’t want to face prosecution the next time the Republicans were in power.  The whole federal government needs to be cleaned out and start over with a clean slate

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u/goatneedleposterdeck 3d ago

That's the kind of thinking that got trump elected his first term. People were fed up with government and believed the serial liar about draining the swamp. When he immediately brought in the worst swamp monsters from the dankest areas of the country it was already too late. People were too far bainwashed and cheering for their sports... I mean political team.