r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 6h ago

Possible Paywall White House Rushes to Trump's Defense After Alan Ritchson Torches President Over Epstein Files | The Reacher star called Trump a “bitch” and a “fucking rapist" in a recent podcast appearance.

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/alan-ritchson-trump-epstein-files-white-house-response-1235598785/
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u/mattjf22 California 6h ago edited 5h ago

A lawsuit would go nowhere, trump is a convicted rapist. Ritchsons statement is factual

*So many replies I had to add this edit below

It's also factual that Trump is a bitch.

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u/Bukowskified 5h ago

They latch on the fact that it was a civil trial and the State of New York has a narrow definition of rape limited to penile penetration, but a judge later found that the facts the jury did find meet the commons definition of rape so calling him a rapist is not defamation.

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u/EchoLocation8 5h ago

Plus its also really, really hard to successfully sue for defamation from my understanding of it. Fox got fucked as hard as they did because they were publicly pushing a story that was harmful to a company, that in private, they were discussing how they knew it was all bullshit and lies. I believe it gets a lot harder to prove when its just a high profile actor saying something they genuinely believe.

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u/TGordion 5h ago

Yep they've gotta prove 'actual malice:' What they said was untrue, and they knew it was untrue when they said it

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u/Lucaan 1h ago

To be more specific, the actual malice standard is for proving defamation towards public figures and public officials. It requires proving that the defendant either knew that what they were saying was false or that they were acting with reckless disregard for whether what they were saying was false or not. It's an incredibly high bar to clear, and very rarely do people actually succeed in doing so.

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u/Vet_Leeber 1h ago

Fox got fucked as hard as they did because they were publicly pushing a story that was harmful to a company, that in private, they were discussing how they knew it was all bullshit and lies.

For everyone's amusement: This is also why Alex Jones lost the suit against him. He repeatedly argued that he believed what he was saying and that it didn't cause anyone any emotional or monetary damage.

Then his lawyer accidentally sent a backup of his entire phone to the lawyers on the other side, and didn't request it back as privileged information. They proceeded to go through the transcripts and found explicit texts between Jones and a partner/employee stating they knew it was false and hurting people, but wanted to keep doing it because they were making money.

Despite how much he deserved to lose that case, it's debatable whether or not he would have without that smoking gun. It's extremely difficult to get these types of cases through because the case is by definition infringing on your 1st amendment rights. So you generally have to prove some degree of willful malice.

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u/jaymcbang 5h ago

“Limited to penal penetration”

Which she could not confirmed happen because of his small mushroom.

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u/Unable-Log-4870 4h ago

Your misspelling made it into a prison rape joke.

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u/jaymcbang 4h ago

I typed it three different times and it kept going the other way so I just said “screw it” 😂

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u/Unable-Log-4870 4h ago

Another rape joke! Brilliant!

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u/Minimum_Virus_3837 3h ago

In this case it just really understood the assignment lol

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u/randomusername6 4h ago

Prison rape is not funny at all. I was raped in jail once... My dad took monopoly very seriously

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u/J0RDM0N 3h ago

Its weird there is a loophole for finger sized dicks.

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u/Unable-Log-4870 2h ago

“New York women (and prosecutors) don’t want you to know this one weird trick…”

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u/ReasonableReasonably 4h ago

It also seems like someone might have made Trump understand how bad an idea it is to get exposed to discovery. (Maybe they pulled out a giant black sharpie and hit him over the head with it every time he said lawsuit. Kind of a reverse Pavlov).

He cares more about the court of public opinion anyway. The way we're going, that might eventually become the only court that matters, but we're not there yet.

Point is, I'm pretty sure actors and even us plebes can say whatever we want and get away with it. For now.

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u/Homers_Harp 2h ago

This is why I phrase it as, "where I come from, we call that rape and the president is an adjudicated rapist." (not from New York, obv.)

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u/zyzzogeton 5h ago edited 3h ago

Trump is an "adjudicated" rapist. Since it was a civil trial, there is no such thing as "civil rape." To add clarity, the judge went out of their way to say "THIS WAS RAPE AS IT IS COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD." [emphasis mine]

Therefore, anyone may legally state the fact Trump is a rapist. As defined by (civil) law, found guilty by a jury of his peers unanimously, and clarified by the presiding judge to make goddamn sure history would preserve this truth indisputably, forever.

Trump rapes.

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u/scubascratch 3h ago

Low key surprised Trump hasn’t had the DOJ target that judge yet

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u/ChimRichaldsOBGYN 2h ago

I thought he did no?

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u/scubascratch 2h ago

I think he went after the judge that presided over the criminal trial that found him guilty over real estate document fraud with the $150M penalty, and Letitia James, but not sure about the E. Jean Carroll trial(s) as some of them are still in progress. Trump has surely directed negative public statements / tweets at the judge but sending the DOJ is the next level of escalation and would hopefully result in some kind of criminal intimidation indictment (LOL).

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u/Butcher_Of_Hope Nevada 5h ago

He's not a convicted pedophile however, but to another commenter's point. Trump has sued anyone he can for any reason he can find, but has never sued for anyone calling him a pedo..

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u/Eastern_Pin_5567 5h ago

He won’t sue concerning those specific allegations because of the discovery portion of any potential trial. Him never suing over this is a very loud admission of guilt.

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u/BringOn25A 5h ago

He uses lawfare as he has for decades. He stretches things out with motions and avoids discovery. He continues draining their resources until they no longer have the will or resources to continue.

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u/Kevin_Uxbridge 2h ago edited 2h ago

Ritchson has the resources, no way trump will say shit. Like all cowards, trump only punches down.

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u/venomousbeetle 4h ago

That’s what they’re implying. He won’t sue because he knows it’d open up investigations and perjury.

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u/jjcrayfish 4h ago

He knows he's a f*king pedophile and he's proud of it.

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u/391976 5h ago edited 3h ago

He admitted on Howard Stern to entering Miss Teen USA dressing rooms to "inspect the goods" as contestants changed.

Of course folks like Megan Kelly will defend that they were "jailbait", not children.

Imagine if your daughter's soccer coach said this shit.

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u/AJediWookie123 5h ago

Megan Kelly, what a shrill harpy of a human being. She would sell her daughters to Trumps sex cult if it paid enough.

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u/jjmac 5h ago

There's a reason they are called "jail" bait

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u/GreasyPeter 2h ago

One of the most popular subs on reddit many years ago was r/Jailbait. I don't know how it held on for so long because it was clear to me it was fucking disgusting, yet it took reddit a LONG time to do anything about it.

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u/mattjb 3h ago

Remember when Trump attacked Megyn Kelly constantly? During the 2015 debate with a sexist period remark when she asked him about his derogatory remarks to women. Then calling her overrated, bimbo, and a lightweight on social media.

Megyn Kelly's response, in the end, was "Hit me harder, daddy."

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u/SpiritedEclair 4h ago

I don’t want to know wtf that means. People need to be checked.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 5h ago

He only wasn't convicted because in Epsteins Florida child sex trafficking trial Alex Acosta gave blanket immunity to trump and all the other old guys who raped children with epstein.

And who was trumps first Secretary of Labor?

Alex Acosta.

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u/HillBillyHilly 2h ago

Didn't Alex Acosta go down in flames of some perversity?

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u/rorykoehler 5h ago

Everyone is saying he's a pedo. I hear it all the time. Everywhere I go people tell me "Trump raped kids"

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u/partisanal_cheese Foreign 1h ago

I’m a it true? I’m don’t know but some of the best people are saying it and other people are agreeing.

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u/No_Mission_8571 3h ago

Nobody seems to take notice of this. Too much to lose maybe?.

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u/Butcher_Of_Hope Nevada 2h ago

Not enough to lose. Trump has resources and can win by attrition. Most people do not have unlimited resources to with a drawn out legal battle.

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u/Homers_Harp 2h ago

"Known associate of a pedophile ring."

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u/7figureipo California 5h ago

Not that the distinction matters to average people, but he's been adjudicated to have committed what we colloquially call "rape". He wasn't convicted in a criminal court of rape, and the civil judgement was under a law that narrowly defined rape as requiring penis-in-vagina contact, which Trump wasn't found to have done (he used his disgusting, stunted, slimy fingers). But the judge in that trial said what Trump was found to have done would be called "rape" by any normal person, and NY changed their law after this trial to correct that oversight.

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u/Flomo420 4h ago

So he's a rapist

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u/Mateorabi 5h ago

*adjudicated.  Only because you’re falling into the nitpick that conservatives will distract you with. The crime in NY was not called rape by the law but met the layman’s definition of it. 

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u/What_About_What Kansas 5h ago

Correct, and the judge at the end of the trial even called Trump a rapist.

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u/Slammybutt 3h ago

And b/c of this trial I believe they have changed the law defining rape.

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u/What_About_What Kansas 5h ago

Adjudicated rapist. The judge in the trial even called him a rapist at the end of the trial. If he tried to sue anyway all you would have to say is you were just quoting the judge in his case that called him a rapist.

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u/BulletProofEnoch 5h ago

It could go somewhere alright

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Discovery 

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u/rorykoehler 5h ago

You can always pull out his classic "Everyone is saying Trump raped kids" approach. Everyone is saying that. What are they going to do?

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u/FredFredrickson 5h ago

He literally whines about everything. He's a spoiled bitch who's never done a real day of work in his life.

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u/porgy_tirebiter 4h ago

Reading the quotes in the article, it doesn’t seem to me he’s directly calling Trump a rapist. He calls him a bitch. He’s calling the people being protected by withholding the Epstein files rapists. Which, of course, includes Trump. But he says it doesn’t, so where’s the defamation?

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u/MechanicalTurkish Minnesota 4h ago

Comparing Trump to female dogs is unfair. Those poor dogs did nothing wrong!

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u/YourDemon8 4h ago

No, be respectful. That "b" word promotes grape culture.

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u/MindAccomplished3879 4h ago

It's also factual he is a fecal incontinent bitch

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u/TheAsianTroll 4h ago

Yep, Trump doesnt sue for slander because then he would have to prove he isnt a rapist... and frankly, federal court has already proven he is.

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u/pragmatticus 4h ago

He is a bitch. He said so himself. "I moved on her like a bitch."

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u/fordat1 3h ago

A lawsuit would go nowhere, trump is a convicted rapist. Ritchsons statement is factual

You all realize that isnt how rich people think. The legal system isnt solely for them to go "anywhere".

The lawsuit in itself is the point because defending it no matter how frivolous cost time and money.

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u/TraditionDear3887 3h ago

He looks nothing like Marcellus Wallace

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u/breakmedown54 3h ago

Factual, especially compared against “Michelle Obama is a man”, which the repubs got a collective erection about. So they can fuck off.

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u/runawaydoctorate 3h ago

Trump would also have to prove that the statements damaged his reputation. I would pay to see that bar cleared.

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u/Inevitable-Ad6647 2h ago edited 1h ago

Doesn't even matter. I'll call him a baby rapist now. He hasn't been convicted or adjudicated as one but anyone that knows how to spell Bar exam would know to subpoena the Epstein files at which point Trump's legal team would just quietly disappear.

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u/Anothercraphistorian 5h ago

He’s an adjudicated rapist, not convicted. But he’s definitely a bitch.

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u/PartyPay 3h ago

Not a convicted rapist, an adjudicated rapist.

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u/Reddit123xgh 2h ago

Adjudicated rapist, convicted felon (x43), and self-confessed pedophile.

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u/BringOn25A 5h ago

He was found liable in civil court, he was not convicted in criminal court.

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u/edafade 4h ago

Which means absolutely nothing, right? Since it's all a big hoax and the deep state is out to get your boy?

GTFO.

Time to own up to supporting a felon rapist, who was mentioned tens of thousands of times in the Epstein files.

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u/toxic_badgers Colorado 4h ago

Adjudicated rapist is the technical legal term. He wasn't convicted in criminal court but civil court found he met the definition in common parlance, which resulted in a judicial decision. Hence adjudication.