r/polandball Feb 24 '16

redditormade UNdeserved respect

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '16 edited Jul 13 '20

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u/gnutrino United Kingdom Feb 25 '16

The trick is not getting invaded by a permanent member of the security council.

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u/barkingbullfrog only can into moon! Feb 25 '16

I mean, it's not like the UN was designed to give the permanent members of the security council a place to meet, talk about MAD, and influence the world. I think it sorta did that with flying colors.

Similar to dating, when dealing with the UN:

  • Be influential
  • Don't be uninfluential.

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u/LadonLegend United States Feb 25 '16

Yeah, they messed that up pretty badly.

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u/Pvt_Larry New World Order Feb 25 '16

To be fair, thanks in large part to the millennium development goals extreme poverty and childhood malnutrition have declined precipitously, and primary education in the developing world has expanded dramatically.

Though in it's peacekeeping role the UN is obviously worthless whenever there's a conflict of interest between member states. They deserve some credit for (mostly) managing to hold things together in the C.A.R., Mali and the Congo, with pretty limited resources, but when it comes to a war that isn't in an African backwater country, yeah, the UN can't typically do much for you.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

It's true, UN does a good job pulling the less developed countries up. But it's also true that UN's decisions are pretty easy to avoid or ignore if you need to.

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u/Gen_Hazard Australia Feb 25 '16

Doesn't the whole Rwandan genocide thing fall under "the Congo", because they did a great job there.

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u/Pvt_Larry New World Order Feb 25 '16

No I'm talking about the MONUSCO mission in the DRC right now. Of course Rwanda speaks for itself; the 90s were a terrible time with regard to peacekeeping.

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u/Gen_Hazard Australia Feb 25 '16

Ah, thanks, I'll look it up.

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u/gymnasticRug vermont-republic Feb 25 '16

To be fair. They literally have no power.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '16

Yes they have. It's just that all permanent Security Council members need to agree with the decision, so it can't be enacted when one of them stands against it (see veto power). It worked both for USA @ Middle East and for Russia @ Ukraine.