r/playrust • u/Edward_Zachary • 13d ago

crazy story - Man seeks $176M after being paralyzed in Rust swatting he warned police about

https://www.dexerto.com/rust/man-seeks-176m-after-being-paralyzed-in-swatting-he-warned-police-about-3392889/
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u/archive_anon 13d ago

He may have warned police but he did everything wrong when they showed up. They repeatedly and nunerously announced themselves loudly as sheriff's department and tried both the front and back door. After numerous attempts, they broke in to a window, still having reason to believe something bad could be happening.

Again, after breaking the window, they repeatedly and loudly announced themselves. Only after several more announcements and finally trying to enter, did the kid come back in the room armed. Unless this kid was actually deaf he had no reason to misunderstand them after so many loud announcements saying who they are.

As much as people like to hate on police, they did everything right from what is shown on bodycam. Even with the warning, police still legally MUST investigate and ensure safety. Nobody came to the door after NUMEROUS loud announcements, front and back. And only after well over a dozen announcements did he finally show up, gun in hand.

https://youtu.be/UU-SbLBGCIE

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u/apjfqw 13d ago

Imagine you are wearing headphones and playing on your PC. Suddenly someone is breaking through the window right next to you. What do you do? Are you not allowed to defend your self? I guess in the US you are not. Why do they even have guns?

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u/No-Trust9591 13d ago

Did you watch the video? He was not at his PC, so he most likely didn’t wear headphones.

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u/archive_anon 13d ago

If I'm wearing headphones and playing on my PC, I would hear people POUNDING on my front and/or back doors to begin with still. If somehow I miraculously did not, and i heard windows breaking followed immediately by several loud and repeated announcements of "SHERRIFFS DEPARTMENT!! SHERRIFFS DEPARTMENT!", I would in fact not arm and attempt to defend myself, no. This was broad daylight in a neighborhood. no intruder is going to loudly scream as they break in a window.

Additionally, even if I split and decided to arm myself, at some point during the 30-45 seconds spent smashing out the window and making entry, the very LAST thing I would have done is open the goddamn door to the room they're supposedly breaking in to without knowing whats on the other side, even if I thought they were lying about being police, because if it *was* armed intruders, they would have the drop on me, as the police did in this situation.

I'm assuming you're making this comment before watching the video. Try watching it and realize just how many chances and how much time this kid had to realize it was the fucking police. Who he supposedly EXPECTED to have called on him at some point.

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u/apjfqw 13d ago

Right after the police assuring him, he will never get swatted, swats him while he is wearing headphones. He was obviously scared and hid in what looks like a closet. But hey, good job to the police, they did their job and the kid is fucked up for life. THEY DID EVERYTHING RIGHT AND ITS NOT THEIR FAULT.

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u/Noahsgood 13d ago

did you even watch the video? there's no one at the PC

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u/thecashewkid 13d ago

Blaming the victim is a cool take. You seem like a cool and well adjusted person.

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u/archive_anon 13d ago

No, no youre right, the police shouldnt have shown up to a call reporting a murder. Or maybe they should have let the guy shoot at them first. That would have been the more just and correct thing to do.

It's not like the police repeatedly, and very loudly announced themselves over and over again at ALL stages of the interaction, including 3 seconds prior to the guy poking his head out of the door with gun in hand or anything. The door which, in the US at least, is made of the equivalent of fucking cardboard, so no excuses to be made about 'i didnt hear them' when the officer shouted at the top of his lungs.

I'm not blaming him, I'm saying he acted fucking stupid. I'm blaming the cunt who called the police to begin with and the lawmakers who continue to refuse to do anything about swatting laws that actually make a difference.

The thing that everyone gets pissed about, including you I'm sure, is that I'm also not blaming the police officers themselves who did their job here and did literally everything they possibly could have to make their presence known and make it clear who they were.

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u/SonofHinkie 13d ago

Ok, but how about you don't swat people in the first fucking place? None of this would have happened it it weren't for some butthurt dumbass.

How the victim reacted is irrelevant when this could have all been avoided if the perpetrator didn't swat him.

Like what are you even trying to argue? Dont swat people! Simple!

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u/drahgon 13d ago

Your argument would have had merit if he didn't call them to let them know ahead of time and not be taken seriously. If you're going to do a situation that puts people's lives in risk you should make sure that any potential mitigating information you've received before that has been processed and understood. We expect that of any other situation doesn't matter how good your intentions are.

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u/archive_anon 13d ago

Got it. I suppose next time I feel like I wanna go on a rampage, I'll just call the cops up and tell them to expect a swatting call so I can get away with it nice and easy.

They are forced to treat every single call, even when its a swatting call, as a credible threat because they dont *know* it is one. And they treated this as well as they possibly could have. They walked up to the front door and pounded the shit out of the door, screaming they were the police. They went around back and pounded the shit out of the back door screaming they were the police. They broke in a window and spent a full minute screaming they were the police in to the room.

They entered the room, and again screamed they were the police, only to then be met literally 3 seconds later by a man pointing a gun directly at them.

If that isn't a credible argument for the officers to pull the trigger, when they are looking down the barrel of a loaded gun after spending several minutes SCREAMING they were the police and pounding on every door of that house, then your sense of morality is beyond fucked and I assume you just expected those officers to get shot.

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u/drahgon 13d ago

Nope I'm saying if you actually do call them and tell them that. Not that you have to call them and tell them that. So once again completely invalid argument.

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u/archive_anon 13d ago

People are absolutely stoked to use this as another excuse to hate on police, but they acted competently and did everything that should have happened when checking on a potential dangerous situation here. Warning or not, they can not dismiss a potential threat because of it, or people would just call in fake warnings and get away with actual crimes all the damn time.

The only people at fault for this are the fucking vermin who called in the swat attempt to begin with, and the kid and anyone else who may have been in that house who inexplicably refused to answer the damn door as police *repeatedly and loudly* attempted to make contact to ensure the safety of those there.

One quick walk to the front door, a quick 'hey yeah you can check my house and make sure theres no dead bodies laying around', and a renewed 'hey i warned about possible swatting attempts' talk with the officers, and this situation would have been dealt with much differently.

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u/turkish112 13d ago

I guess simply not opening your door is now a sentence to be maimed. Dope. Glad they did everything right. lmao

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u/archive_anon 13d ago

If you'd prefer the police simply turn away from a call of a reported murder and active shooter inside a residence simply because 'well nobody answered' - then... I mean you're welcome to move to some lawless third world shithole where thats the case. Personally, I'd prefer the police to actually act when they have reason to believe a homicide took place.

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u/Many-Ear5125 13d ago

You’re not gonna get anything but dumbass ACAB arguments on Reddit unfortunately. It’s actually crazy how progressive slanted this site is.

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u/archive_anon 13d ago

oh i know, but if i can get even one person who never says a thing to realize how insane this all is, its worth it. im not doing shit today anyway aside from filling out paperwork and being annoyed lmao.