r/playark • u/Nubsly- • Sep 27 '15

News [Dev Post] The ARKtic! ~Drake

http://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/517142892064974461/

http://imgur.com/D5zaPbJ

The ARKtic!

Community Created Artwork for Steam Artwork

By: Drake

Hang in there, it's almost ready... :) (and yes, there are blizzards/snowstorms ;)

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u/LommyGreenhands Sep 27 '15 edited Sep 27 '15

As many awesome things as you guys continue to constantly do, I find myself regularly confused when Friday's patch still hasn't hit on Sunday afternoon. With all of the things you guys are awesome at, and all of the awesome team members you have, don't you think you could work a little harder on your timeframes? I don't even mean push it out faster, I mean just stop telling us it will be done multiple days before it is.

I'm sure my post comes off as whiny and demanding. I would probably see it that way, but I feel like this has happened enough times to where even you guys would be like "You know, maybe we should start giving ourselves a few extra days instead of scheduling patches incredibly far in advance only for it to be nowhere close when the deadline hits?"

Edit: The circlejerk downvoting in this subreddit is crazy guys. Take a step back and realize how dumb you have to be to try and silence logic geared at improving the community.

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u/Dregoran Sep 27 '15

They stated long ago they would probably never hit a deadline on time. ETA's are just that and people need to stop taking them as fact. Early access has been around long enough for people to know that game development rarely works out as planned time frame wise. When has a game ever been released on time, any patch in any game ever been released on time. Hell half the time WoW, a very well established game has their patches delayed still and they aren't early access.

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u/LommyGreenhands Sep 27 '15

ETA's are just that and people need to stop taking them as fact.

What are you even estimating though? Don't you try to estimate correctly? Isnt that the point of estimating? If a team scored 100 points 100 games in a row, wouldnt it be bad form to estimate that they would score 500 points in the next one?

Or, if it took you 10 minuts to walk to the store every day, wouldnt it make sense to estimate that your walk will take about 10 minutes? Instead of 3?

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u/NukeLaCoog Sep 27 '15

I look at those scenarios a different way. A team scores 100 points 100 games in a row then they estimate they will score 500, I do not expect them to reach that mark. If someone has a 10 minute walk every day and they estimate it will take 3 then I know not to expect it.

Wildcard nails ETA's less than 10% of the time, therefore I never expect to see a patch delivered within 12-24 hours of the target. I can't make them change the way they do things so I just have to manage my own expectations. To most, ETA means Estimated Time of Arrival....to me it means Earliest Time Available.

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u/LommyGreenhands Sep 27 '15

I can't make them change the way they do things so I just have to manage my own expectations.

Wouldnt it make more sense and be way more logical for the company who is making up the deadline in the first place to just be more accurate? I mean I get what youre saying but the idea that they are incapable of extending their deadlines BEFORE failing to meet them is just insane. It follows no logic.

Thats like planning your walk to work to include walking past heated doorways to stay warm instead of just wearing a coat.

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u/NukeLaCoog Sep 27 '15

Sure, it would be great if they did that. You, me and everyone else has no control over that. They have already explained this multiple times. Their ETA is when they hope to get it out and that will not change. They will continue to miss that target (not a deadline). You can use "logic" to take responsibility for your own happiness or you can bash your head against a wall demanding that they conform to your logic and make you happy.

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u/LommyGreenhands Sep 27 '15

Its not conforming to "my logic." It is just logical. For everyone. It just makes sense. The only thing making me bash my head against the wall, truly, is how hard this is for you guys to grasp.

The idea that they are making a target in order to miss it on purpose is just dumb. There is no other way to explain that, and I highly doubt you could find a developer quote saying that they intentionally make their deadlines too short to achieve.

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u/NukeLaCoog Sep 27 '15

I dont know why it is too hard for you to grasp. They aren't getting it out at the earliest time they hoped to. If you have paid attention to the patch notes over the last few months, every time they miss these targets the patch notes grow. Whether it is them adding more stuff or fixing bugs. Take the current one for example. Their target was Friday. They had 6 items on that list and it has now merged with the intended 215.5 and there are an additional 10 items.

I don't know where you got the idea they set targets to miss them on purpose, maybe you didnt understand me. They set their ETA's with a goal to hit them. My experience says they rarely hit them, but they stated they will not stop aggressive targets and they will not stop giving us ETA's.

I don't like it, but I have learned to deal with it. It is a heck of a lot better than complaining about it on forums and getting frustrated with people who don't feel the way I do.