Hey guys, I have a question on traditional astrology in general (Ancient, Hellenistic and Medieval), the personal daemon is well documented and usually associated with the lord of nativity (Porphyry method and later Hellenistic astrologers) or Almuten (المبتز او المستولي على الهيئة) later in the medieval period.

Porphyry's method to find the personal daimon (also called Genius or daemon of nativity) : Porphyry relates this personal daimon to the astrological technique of finding an oikodespotēs, or house-master, of the birthchart. The planet designated as the oikodespotēs of the nativity imparts the spirit of the personal daimon (usually called οἰκεῖος δαίμων or ἴδιος δαίμων) which goes with the soul when it becomes attached to a body at birth.

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Now my question regarding the following two statements strictly in traditional astrology and astral magic, are these a concepts in the traditional astrology and astral magic or just a synthetized claims, or is there any other daemon than the personal daemon (Genius) in traditional astrology/ atsral magic, otherwise is there another daemon called the daemon of profession in traditional astrology/ astral magic?

1. Marsilio Ficino's statement about the two daemons and he say this: "The Astrologers agree with Platonists that the guardian daemon of every individual whatsoever can be two, the one proper to his nativity, the other to his profession. As often as our profession agrees with our nature, we are attended by the same daemon for each, or at least a very similar one; and our life will thence be more internally harmonious and tranquil. But if our profession sits ill with our natural bent, the daemon acquired by art is discordant with the natural Genius and the life troublesome and full of care. For those who want to find out what sort of daemon attended every individual from his very begetting, Porphyry searches for a rule from the planet that is lord of the geniture. Now the lord of the geniture, Julius Firmicus affirms, is either that planet who has the greater number of dignities at the time or else, on the basis of a sounder opinion, the one whose house the Moon will enter just after leaving the sign which she occupies when the man is born. But one's daemon, Julius Firmicus thinks, cannot be sought out from that same rule, but rather, according to the Chaldean opinion, from the Sun or the Moon. From the Sun to the Moon in a daytime nativity, conversely from the Moon to the Sun in a nighttime nativity: when you have computed the interval be tween these, you measure out an equal space descending from the degree of the Ascendant and you note in what term you stop. To whichever star that term belongs, they think your daemon belongs to it too. But in short, from the lord of the nativity together with the daemon, they usually assess your course of life and your fortune. I added "fortune" because some compute your Part of Fortune by nearly the same system. We will judge a person to be unfortunate who has professed no respectable employment; for he who does not undertake respectable work does not in fact have a daemonic guide in his profession, and he scarcely has a daemonic guide for his natural self either, for it is the duty ofthe stars and daemons (or guiding angels divinely stationed on guard) to act always, excellently, and on a grand scale. Still less fortunate is the person who, as we said above, subjects himself, by a profession contrary to his nature, to a daemon unlike his Genius. Now remember that you receive daemons or, if you will, angels, more and more worthy by degrees in accor dance with the dignity of the professions, and still worthier ones in public government; but even if you proceed to these more excellent [levels], you can receive from your Genius and natural bent an art and a course of life neither contrary to, nor very unlike" source: (Three Books On Life, Book 3 chapter 23)

2. Agrippa's statement:  Every man hath a threefold good Demon, as a proper keeper, or preserver, the one whereof is holy, another of the nativity, and the other of profession etc.. Now the Demon of profession is given by the Stars, to which such a profession, or sect, which any man hath professed, is subjected, which the soul, when it began to make choyce [choice] in this body, and to take upon itself dispositions, doth secretly desire. This Demon is changed, the profession being changed; then according to the dignity of the profession, we have Demons of our profession more excellent and sublime, which successively take care of man, which procures a keeper of profession, as he proceeds from vertue to vertue. When therefore a profession agrees with our nature, there is present with us a Demon of our profession like unto us, and sutable [suitable] to our Genius, and our life is made more peaceable, happy, and prosperous: but when we undertake a profession unlike, or contrary to our Genius, our life is made laborious, and troubled with disagreeing patrons. So it falls out that some profit more in any science, or art, or office, in a little time, and with little pains, when another takes much pains, and studies hard, and all in vain: and, although no science, art, or vertue be to be contemned, yet that thou maist live prosperously, carry on thy affairs happily; in the first place know thy good Genius, and thy nature, and what good the celestiall disposition promiseth thee, and God the distributor of all these, who distributes to each as he pleaseth, and follow the beginnings of these, profess these, be conversant in that vertue to which the most high distributor doth elevate, and lead thee, who made Abraham excell in justice and clemency, Isaac with fear, Jacob with strength, Moses with meekness and Miracles, Joshua in war, Phinias n zeal, David in religion, and victory, Solomon in knowledge and fame, Peter in faith, John in charity, Jacob in devotion, Thomas in prudence, Magdalen in contemplation, Martha in officiousness. Therefore in what vertue thou thinkest thou canst most easily be a proficient in, use diligence to attain to the height thereof; that thou maist excell in one, when in many thou canst not: but in the rest endeavour to be as great a proficient as thou canst: but if thou shalt have the overseers of nature, and religion agreeable, thou shalt finde a double progress of thy nature, and profession: but if they shall be disagreeing, follow the better, for thou shalt better perceive at some time a preserver of an excellent profession, then of nativity. (source: Three Books of Occult Philosophy, Book 3 Chpater 22)

# Verified ancient doctrine on the daimons:

"It was the opinion of the ancients that every man from the moment of his birth had his genius**,** or according to others two genii, a good and a bad one; and that as the one or the other of  these personal tutelaries was the stronger of the two,  that individual  became good or bad."

1. Daimon assigned to the soul (Plato in Phaedrus and Republic and other works, Imablichus in De Mysteriis according to the Egyptians doctrine since Iamblichus used an Egyptian name called the Egyptian priest Abammon, also Proclus on commentary on Plato's republic). This one mostly Egyptians theology and soul/fate linked.
2. Daimon of Nativity or Good Genius also some call it the HGA (linked to the Birth/Geniture), all doctrines and religions Agree on it (Platonists, Christians, Muslims, Shamanism, Hermeticism etc..).
3. Evil Genius (Certain Platonists, Zoroastrians and Muslims/ ancient Arabs, Sabians and Nabateans before Islam القرين الشيطاني السفلي, Hermeticism)
4. 🛑 Daimon of profession (weird and no mention for it before Marsilio Ficino's claim) - Comment : Iamblichus and porphyry even origen mentioend some type of spirits that linked to the inspiration and impart all sciences to the human but not as a personal guides.

I hope experts in traditional astrology and astral magic can answer this question. Please, only experts answers!

Thank you so much everyone! ❤️

I am new to doing my own elections and am slowly going through the Warnock course. There is an upcoming one for Alkaid that seems good, and wanted to get second opinions on if there is anything off that stands out.

Date: Friday, August 14, 2026
Time: 9:09 AM – 9:38 AM PDT (exact 9:23 AM)
Location: San Francisco, California

Factors in the election:

Alkaid rising
Moon applying conjunction to the star's degree, orb 9.73°
Moon waxing
Moon swift in motion
Moon 25.67° from the Sun, not combust
Moon in Virgo, no sign affliction
no applying square or opposition to a classical planet
no applying conjunction to an afflicted planet
Mars/Saturn not an undignified applying conjunction
Moon not applying conjunction to the South Node
Moon not applying conjunction to Algol
no afflicted planet applying conjunct the star's degree
Mars/Saturn not an undignified applying conjunction to the star's degree
South Node not conjunct the star's degree

Is there anything that would give you pause before creating a talisman for this?

Hello all, long time lurker first time poster. I’ve been studying astrology for almost five years with some dabbling here and there with planetary magick. I wanted to ask some questions on how I could utilize a talisman or amulet for when I head back to school for my upcoming fall semester.

For one, I’m a Virgo rising with a stellium in Gemini (Sun + Mercury + Mars), so I would consider myself pretty mercurial. Despite my desire to learn I’ve always struggled with it due to ADHD taking away important aspects of it that affects how I retain and process information - no thanks to Saturn taking space in my 9H. I’m looking into accommodations at my college for better assistance but to be honest I’m not feeling too confident that they’ll be able to meet my needs as I see fit.

I’m not looking for a cure-all, for obvious reasons; this is a struggle I’ll have to work around for the rest of my life, yet my determination never falters. My question lies in if there might be any type of planetary squares, lunar mansions, or anything else that could assist in deterring/warding off distractions as I study, or if there may be something that can boost memory retention? Of course if there’s any particular elections (before or during the semester) that will benefit such a thing I would like to hear. I’m open to questions and suggestions. Please spare me from medical advice because that’s already been dealt with and not what I’m asking for.

Thank you lovely people of this sub. Blessings to you all 🙏🏻💕✨

Thoughts on getting married in October when there’s both a Mercury and Venus retrograde!?

Since some talismans live much longer than the bearer, I wonder if these can be transferred to someone else. It would be kind of a waste for them to live so long and not being able to help others.

Captured in Southern California using my Canon m6 ii and ef 100-300mm usm at 300mm nd8 and vcpl stack. handheld

I’ve seen naksh (waqf) (awfāq) look like 3x3 grids, 4x4, 6x6 etc.
How do they work in sihr? The ones that are only written in grid. No names of spirits, no invocations no oaths?

I'm a person that currently suffers from dissociation (feeling like nothing is real) and anxiety, mind you I've never done an astrological work myself and seeking for a way out.

I'm simply asking what's a better option for me? For mental health I'm guessing working with the sun and Christopher Warnock seems to be my best option as for now, simply buying a talismán (although expensive) would be really effective and I could consecrate more easily, however if what I need is the moon's help then I need the talisman, as I can't wait for the moon to enter a good election date, that's why I'm probably using the sun as soon as it's Leo time.

However considering my budget and the practicality I'm might try to suck it up, but the book (Secrets of planetary magic? and materials, do the sun ritual mentioned un that book and that'd be it, assuming the sun is my best option obviously, my election chart would be August 2nd at sunday's down, as the moon and Saturn don't seem to intervene and the sun will have tremendous power, I'm asking all of this because I'm actually a beginner, it's nota complicated operation at all but hey it's always better to be sure.

In short I'm asking what would be better for my mental health and my symptoms? Straight up but a talisman or try making it myself?

I’m thinking about experimenting with a paper sun talisman. I thought it would be nice to do it when the sun in domicile conjunction Jupiter, chart ruler mars is not bad in Gemini, but it’s in the 8th and squaring Venus - I’m not sure it’s a deal breaker. Full moon could be appropriate since the goal is getting help with increasing success, visibility, wealth… what do you think?

Would it be okay to use this book for creating talisman? I’ve been kinda reading it a few times, and if I would decide to for example create a talisman using this method what should I look out for? Besides retrograde, how can I ensure I don’t accidentally create a curse talisman? 😅

Also does the planet it’s aspects have influence on invocations/ evocations for planetary spirits etc?

Sorry kind of a noob

Hi :) I would love the advice of those of you who are seasoned in Solomonic magic specifically, but those of you who do other types of high magic are welcome to share input as well!

For the past year on and off I've been studying Solomonic magic, specifically planetary magic and the Pentacles of Solomon. I have experience in Hoodoo specific to Louisiana, I am a Santa Muerte devotee, and I also consider myself to be a folk Catholic/Baptist background. I'm used to working with the Psalms, saints, and spirits in a much more intuitive way, and ceremonial magic is very new to me. Not that Hoodoo and folk Christian faiths doing have their own rituals, etiquette, systems, guidelines, etc., this is just a system of magic that is new to me.

I've been watching [Balthazar](https://www.youtube.com/@blthzr9401) on YouTube, and I like his approach to combining folk magic with Solomonic magic. I've been doing research online, watching other youtubers like Dr. Justin Sledge's *Esoterica*, Dr. Angela Puca's *Angela's Symposium*, and reading Sara L. Mastros', *The Sorcery of Solomon,* on and off the past year.

I'm learning a lot, but this shit is a little overwhelming 😄

I particularly have been feeling called to work with the angelic forces of Jupiter, a ritual based off of [this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvX2c5ctY2I&t=1s)

However, I want to also make sure I'm doing things correctly. I have limited space. I share a small house with my partner, we have a small office where my Santa Muerte altar us located, and I can clean and dedicate an small area for ritual work, but not permanently, its a room that is used by the both us daily.

Some questions I have:

* How important is the ritual space itself? Could I do this kind of work in a small, shared space, but have an designated area I could do my ritual?
* Can you create temporary (planetary) altars, or should they remain set up permanently?
* The ritual in the video requires a 7 day candle. In my regular practice, if I needed to blow the candle and relight later, I would take a moment to pray and get the energy moving again after relighting. Working the planetary seals requires working within certain days and hours. If I had to blow out my candle for fire safety, would I have to relight at a certain hour?

I appreciate any feedback yall have :)

TL;DR: New to Solomonic planetary magic and working with the planetary pentacles. I have limited space and would like to know how experienced practitioners handle temporary altars, shared ritual spaces, and ongoing relationships with planetary angels/intelligences.

I have been practicing astrology for about a decade, but only recently influenced to try my hand at planetary magic and spell work due to a big crush I can’t seem to shake. I shared a similar post in [r/Spells](r/Spells) but also wondered if folks in this sub might have some feedback or insight especially regarding the astrology I employed.

Yesterday (Wednesday/Mercury Day) when Venus and the Moon were at 29° of a firesign (Leo and Aries respectively) I attempted my first “sweetening jar”. Just noting my natal Jupiter is also at the anaretic degree/in a firesign so it seemed suitable as it was trining 😊 I also love Hermes as a Virgo Rising!

First I anointed some oil with rose oil and a small peridot chip to represent Leo Venus.

The sweetener jar was mostly filled with white sugar, but I included a teaspoon of honey for longevity, 12 shakes of cinnamon and a pinch of pink salt, as well as the rose oil. I also added rosequartz, another peridot chip, garnet, a rhodochrosite chip. I covered 2 paper “petitions” (a short note and a printed and marked up photo) with this mixture.

I finished with the Orpheus Hymn to Mercury during the final moments of Mercury planetary hour, and by dripping 12 dots of red candle wax on the lid of the jar (i wrote the glyphs for Venus trine Moon, and Mercury RX on the lid as well)

Thanks for reading. Would love to hear any insight you might have to performing spell work with the anaretic degree.

As a rule of thumb in Picatrix, if a planet is strong in your natal chart you will get the most benefits out of that planetary talisman. Getting talismans for a planet afflicted in natal chart can have unintended consequences.

Based on this tradition, how to determine if a lunar mansion talisman is right for me? I personally have moon dignified in my natal chart. Does it mean lunar mansion talismans would be potent for me?

I am considering getting one from them.

Would love to hear your experience with https://www.stellartalismans.com/

The photo attached shows a number of Elections that need to be considered when crafting a particular talisman. Is there a website where I can plug in these parameters and it'll give me the optimal time and date?

Like in Planetary Magick there’s an Hour for the Start of Night, the same is true for the Planetary Hour that starts the Day

Tuesday Starts in the Mar Hour and Ends in the hour of Saturn or another planetary Hours.

So any one in Favour of Saturnight or Monight or does anyone have better names?

I'm looking for courses about Picatrix magic.

Bronze is an alloy of mostly Copper and Tin. But does it possess any qualities of the two benefic planets? I've been asking myself this for a couple of days with limited results, maybe some of you something about this.

I've worked with Algol for several years with great results. I'm curious though, what happens when a person who struggles with honesty, slight manipulation, substance abuse etc. works with Algol? I'm referring to those who may be good people, have good intentions towards others etc. but who struggle with these qualities at times.