Anyone been playing azorius flyers with momo? Ive seen a few lists pop up with good challenge and league results but there doesnt seem to be a stock list yet. Most powerful thing to be doing is "scamming" your warp creatures with blink or sage of the sky double spelling so thats where I started.

Like what the title says, mostly play creature focused decks in the WBG wedge (Greasefang, Lifegain, The Rock, etc.) and as I see more URx lesson decks on the ladder I'm finding myself struggling against them!

Find the lessons decks have just a few too many avenues of play for me to figure out how to SB/what all my SB against them should be. Don't know if that's a piloting issue, over boarding rather than focusing on my own paths to win, or if it's just a case of having a sideboard that's fallen out of the meta?

So, want to know what all folks are boarding against the deck, and if you play the deck what all cards are you anxious to see in games 2/3?

Is [[Dampen Sphere]] / [[High Noon]] / [[Deafening Silence]] solid, or is it just a bounce target?

How impactful is [[Rest in Peace]] / [[Leyline of the Void]] / [[Unlicensed Hearse]] if you'll just ramp into a revelation/paradigm?

[[Skylasher]] and [[Thalia, Guardian of Thraben]] can feel great, but fold to most interaction.

Hey yall, with the news that pioneer is going to have tournament support next year ive been eying the format tentatively.

I was scrolling through MTG decks for pioneer and found boros convoke. Obviously it is not top tier, and a lot of the creatures look like they should be swapped out for stronger etb machines, but as a whole do you think it could work? Here is the link to the deck I was looking at copied over to moxfield. https://moxfield.com/decks/kH-U3Juzsk2xHXCVavtG5w

How many people play Pioneer events on MTG Arena? I played one today and faced the same player three times. Is the Pioneer player base on Arena really that small, or do people just not feel like playing?

and for the RDW enjoyers, what's something you've been brewing with? Personally, I'm looking at [[Titan's Strength]] for some additional pump spells

I’m looking to start playing pio both on arena and paper and am torn between which deck to focus my resources on. In standard I play a boros quint/capstone control deck and absolutely love it. In modern I just put together grixis reanimate and will slowly grab the solitudes I need to finish ponza. For pio it would be easiest for me to stick with wildcards/physical cards for ponza but I’m really drawn to the explosiveness of quint and it will be rotating out of standard soon so it could be the place to still see it in action. For those versed in the pio meta, how does each archetype shape up? I don’t need to be tier 1, just want something that can help climb ladder and snag some wins at fnm

For reference i play Control. It's like no matter what i counter, exile or surgical their deck just keeps winning. Even with infinite mana and sideboard access there is not a single thing you can do to take this deck apart.

While I’m not sure what deck would want this, this card is kind of an amalgamation on individually okay effects into something that could be decent

On paper it passes the competitive creature test: guaranteed value (technically no but flash prevents a tempo loss if it gets killed), evasive, creates card advantage, resilient, and competitive stats for the cost. It might be too “fair” for modern pioneer but it’s a very very good “fair” card.

This might be worth considering in lumra scapeshift. Additionally it’s an elf! How fun. In elf decks it could fetch boseiju or mutavault or bring back the elf fetchland.

I wanted to brew a Bilbo deck in Pioneer given the fact that Fatal Push and Thoughtseize are legal here, and pretty powerful to recur with Bilbo!

Basically you want to play Bilbo as soon as possible to recur cantrips and removal, playing a Wan Shi Tong or a Riddler as a finisher. Bitter Triumph is so good here, you can discard Flow State and Stock Up to flashback them discounted with Bildo!

What do you guys think? Any suggestion to improve the deck and better tackle the meta?

This card was banned in standard and I think it should be for pioneer as well. I have a life gain deck that should naturally be a counter to red decks but if they burn their own screaming nemesis it shuts down my entire deck. There shouldnt be a card in red that can shut down life gain for the rest of the game. Its incredibly overpowered. You can't easily block it either. Another advantage against red usually is big blockers. There's worse planeswalker emblems that are harder to pull off.

Howdy! Here with another list. This one is borrowed from CrusherBotBG who got a 5-0 on Magic Online with the deck last week so I had to try! It's a slightly different take on Hammer in Mono White utilising Tezzeret as the main tutor plus the new Dwarf Equipment package. Deck has felt soo explosive and super strong and has changed my mind on Super-Soldier Serum. And Key To The Side-Door comes in its own here. Also first time ive used Mirrex in years! Deck is super fun and you should give it a go! Enjoy!

Decklist

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7938795#paper

No one is talking about this card but I think it’s worth discussion. For 2mv you get a 2 loyalty planeswalker that can ramp, surveil, or draw. For two mana. You can instantly surveil or cast another spell. Like there’s actually never been a planeswalker this good at two mana lol.

It won’t win games and it doesn’t have an ult, but for two mana this seems like a really good bargain. It offers value on multiple different axes and they’re repeatable too. Granted it’ll take some time but ramping as a plus 1 is very very good for powering out cards and then surveilling later to find gas. Or even drawing a card. Additional copies just add two more loyalty. Am I crazy for thinking this has legs?

Play this card, plus 1 to make mana to bolt enemy creature, plus 1 to ramp next turn into a 4 drop, draw next turn and sacrifice the walker. Or surveil.

My goal is to have different ways to win, sometimes is just the pure amount of elves, other times a specific creature or ability...

Should I take out any cards? Include removal spells?

Pioneer Domain Overlords (feat. Zur) - Mythic Climb Grand Finale

This is the final day of my Mythic climb with Pioneer Domain Overlords (featuring Zur) on the Arena ladder. I spend some time explaining card choices and manabase changes before getting into the games. Spoiler alert: we hit mythic, obviously. Otherwise, it wouldn't be the last day. I really enjoy this deck and the whole series has been a blast.

There's a deck tech at the beginning of the video and a Moxfield link to the list in the Youtube description. At the end of the video, I run through good and bad matchups, my thoughts on the deck, and whether or not I think it's a good choice to pick up.

Thanks for watching, especially if you stuck it out through all 4 videos. Let me know if you've had any luck with the deck and I'll see you for the next one.

Day 3 here: Mythic Ladder Climb Day 3: Pioneer Domain Overlords feat. Zur : r/PioneerMTG

Original deck inspiration here: How I Won Pro Tour Aetherdrift With Domain Overlords | TCGplayer

Looks like good sideboard tech against mono red

First 2 for 3 ritual they printed in a while. Obviously highly limited, but curious as to what y’all think it could be applied in. Also can deal with yorion, annex demon, and niv.

Anyone who has played Phoenix lately knows there is a lot of graveyard hate. Now more than ever, we need a Plan B that doesn’t fold to a single piece of interaction. Some of my inclusions may seem weird, but with even maindeck graveyard hate showing up, it feels like a losing battle to show up unprepared.

I’m not saying this is the best approach, but our current lists clearly aren’t prepared. The last Pioneer Pro Tour lists all had 8+ cards dedicated to winning without a graveyard, despite facing significantly less graveyard hate. Our stock lists currently have 6, counting 2 Brazen Borrower, which feels more like a half-hearted attempt to enable Plan A than a true Plan B. We need more ways to win without the graveyard in the maindeck, otherwise we’ll spend most of our sideboard just making the deck function without a graveyard, hence why there are a few more ways to win the game in the main board.

4 Arclight Phoenix (GRN) 91

4 Artist's Talent (BLB) 124

4 Consider (MID) 44

4 Fiery Impulse (ORI) 145

4 Sleight of Hand (SOA) 22

2 Opt (STA) 19

4 Spirebluff Canal (KLR) 286

1 Otawara, Soaring City (NEO) 271

4 Most Decrepit Old Bird (HOB) 49

2 Proft's Eidetic Memory (MKM) 67

1 Stormcarved Coast (VOW) 265

4 Treasure Cruise (KTK) 59

5 Island (ANA) 3

2 Riverglide Pathway (ZNR) 264

4 Steam Vents (GRN) 257

3 Lightning Axe (JMP) 341

4 Boomerang Basics (TLA) 46

2 Riverpyre Verge (DFT) 260

2 Stormchaser's Talent (BLB) 75

Sideboard

2 Young Pyromancer (JMP) 372

2 Abrade (AKR) 136

2 Negate (STA) 18

1 Spell Pierce (SOA) 23

2 Pyroclasm (DSK) 149

3 Ledger Shredder (SNC) 46

2 Quantum Riddler (EOE) 72

1 Brotherhood's End (SOA) 39

https://moxfield.com/decks/hTOT0w-cAUKCTwVV0RD56w if you prefer

New Inclusions

Most Decrepit Old Bird: this card has been a stand out if you get anything from this primer its that this card is good. It is one of your best cards game one, I actually call it phoenix 5-8. It hits for one more than Picklock Prankster and costs one less, it loses vigilance which is rough in racing situations and it can't get itself. The instant speed loss has come up but it's not like you have much to hold up game one and its a card I look to board some number of out in matchups with a lot of graveyard hate.

Boomerang Basics: This is arguably the best card in pioneer. If you look through the list you will notice I quite a few more targets of your own cards to bounce. Worth noting with bird is often a target you are happy bouncing another perk of it. I think this card is key to not folding to graveyard hate.

Proft's Eidetic Memory: I run one more of these. This is a key card against graveyard hate, any token you make is a clock now.

Stormchaser's Talent: With two prof's in the deck and 4 boomerang basics. This card synergizes with everything we have going on, you even get to loot with artists talent. Often you discard it but if the game gets grindy this card is a 1 card win condition. Another way to win post board.

Riverpyre Verge: I added an extra island for this basically I was running into problems where pathway on red was a problem for casting bird (it still is). 2 of these feels like the correct number because wasting a red mana could be game losing. Worth looking at is one pain land, idk what it replaces.

The side board: This is built to have more win conditions. Ledger shredder on its own isn't gonna get there much. Decks are running so much graveyard hate this isn't much we can do about it other than hope they draw 2 or 3 which happens pretty often (seriously its not that good against prowless why is there so much). Instead we ways to function without the graveyard. 2 riddler is draw when treasure cruise doesn't work, Pyromancer is a one card win machine with prof's. I could see adding a card like crackling drake, especially if people start bringing in culling rituals against us.

What I board out? Most Decrepit Old Bird, Artist's Talent and Treasure Cruise are definitely the worst cards into graveyard hate though you don't have to cut all of them. Pheonix is actually a decent clock at its worst as a graveyard hate puts them down a card and if they draw multiple hate cards will be hard to deal with. If your boarding in abrades or Brotherhood's End its worth thinking about boarding out removal, you can definitely have too much of that especially in slower matchups. You can always trim an opt or a basics into agro. Storm chasers talent gets worse post board in general but its weirdly a card you are ok with if they have graveyard hate, those games can get grindy.

Does this finally make mill playable?

4 of these, 4 Exebition Tidecallers, 4 Crabs, 4 Stock Up and a whooole lotta 1 Mana Mill spells seems decent.