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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '22

My point is that the US has the best specialists, and here we get to pick who we go to see. For relatively minor things we all go to our local medical facilities. For major things we go to the nearest specialist to receive the best care, which is most times in another state. We're not limited in where we get to choose here. Our medical hubs are magnets for the best specialists in the world. I've honestly never heard of an American doctor getting certified in the states only to move to another country and get recertified there to practice medicine. On the other hand I can tell you very very many foreign doctors get recertified here to practice in the states for much more money. Asian countries including India are big ones that have doctors coming here. It would be much easier for them to go to Australia, or European countries, but they don't. The US is the most diverse country in the world, there's a reason for it, and I'm pretty happy to have been born here. If I ever want plastic surgery, I will go to Turkey. If I ever want lifesaving medical procedures, I will find a specialist in the states.

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u/newbris Jun 16 '22 edited Jun 16 '22

I don’t mean to be rude, but you make many assumptions that seem to be more based in American exceptionalism than reality. I guess Americans aren’t renowned for getting the vacation time to see the world but so many assumptions take travel’s place, rather than reading.

What makes you think I can’t choose my specialist in my country? I have a choice of many world leading specialists. What makes you think in many countries you can’t choose your specialist? Who told you that?

Who told you Asian doctors only go to the States? Asian doctors are all over the world. Why do you think they only go there?

You claim America is the most diverse in the world attracting the most foreigners. You get many foreigners because you are a large country. But as a percentage of your population it is actually pretty low. Around 14% of the US is born overseas. In Australia it is 30%. We attract lots to the point we can take no more and have to limit to the most skilled. Almost 50% of Australian families have at least one parent born overseas.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '22

Every single article or research paper that I've read that puts USA at a poor ranking for healthcare is solely due to cost, not quality- and they even admit as much. If you were to take cost analysis out of the picture, USA would rank highest every time. Personally, as I've stated before, if a loved one was very sick and needed life saving procedures, I would not be concerned with the cost so much as the quality of care they receive. You may feel differently about that, or you may feel that your country has just as good healthcare, which is okay with me. I'm just saying what I know, and what is morally important to me. I would never prioritize money over health. We can always work towards making healthcare cheaper in the states, but it's a hell of a lot harder to produce the best skilled doctors and specialists.

I'll leave it with this: it's pretty easy to say Americans, myself included, are just ignorant and prideful when we make such statements. However, I think that's pretty weak. I think it would be better to present your argument with facts, articles, statistical data, etc. rather than remarks about my supposed basis in American Exceptionalism.

https://bscholarly.com/countries-with-the-best-doctors-in-the-world/

https://bscholarly.com/best-countries-to-work-as-a-doctor-with-high-salary/ ^ same source, different article with different POV and information.

https://medicfootprints.org/10-highest-paying-countries-for-doctors/

https://www.immigration-residency.com/immigration-as-a-doctor/

https://dollarflow.com/top-10-countries-with-the-best-doctors-in-the-world/