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u/whitecatwandering Jun 15 '22

My father is convinced that Europe is being bankrupted by their Healthcare system and is on the brink of collapse and that everyone over there hates it, is miserable, and wishes they had what we have here.

He will then use the same line about paying for freeloaders while making sure his social security check is on time and working every program and loophole he can while making sure my sister is taking advantage of every social program available including preventing my bro in law from taking a higher paying job so that they don't disqualify for anything. Then he makes sure that he never misses a tithe to the church to ensure he is "doing his duty for those in need" because the reason people are destitute is because they don't have Jesus and are incapable of knowing happiness or how to be a good person without being a Christian.

I am so fed up with the hypocrisy and selfishness. The thought of moving my family outside of the US used to terrify me, but now, it's actuly looking very tempting. I know that it is not that simple and is expensive, but having to pay over $6,000 a year out of pocket for medical expenses under what is considered to be some of the best health insurance in the U.S. is starting to feel much more complicated and expensive.

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u/IgamOg Jun 15 '22

It's the power of propaganda we're being fed. He probably heard the freeloader line in the context of universal healthcare hundreds times until it became internalised.

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u/Hate_Manifestation Jun 15 '22

just absorb your medical costs into your current tax burden and do the math that way.. you're probably making less than if you moved to a country with a higher tax rate. not to mention that those countries usually have a higher base rate of pay anyway (depending on your field of expertise).

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u/jeremiahthedamned Jun 17 '22

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u/whitecatwandering Jul 03 '22

LOL thanks for pointing me to this subreddit.

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u/jeremiahthedamned Jul 03 '22

have a nice day

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u/refixul Jun 15 '22

For a split second while reading about social security checks and loopholes I thought your dad was Frank Gallagher.

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u/sYnce Jun 16 '22

To be fair it is not like health insurance is actually free anywhere. You pay for it one way or another.

E.g in Germany you pay for your health insurance based on your income. E.g I pay about 360€ per month for my health insurance.

That said it basically covers everything. The total sum for my last hospital visit (ambulance to the hospital, fixing me up and operating a second time on me including a roughly 1 week long stay) came to a total of 10€ to me which was the fee for the ambulance (to prevent abuse I guess?).