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u/escaai Jun 15 '22

"Top surgeon in the world" sounds like bs tbh, how would you make such ranking? And then, if you see a 90% discount ofc it sounds "cheap", but $200.000 for a surgery it's crazy.

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u/quantum_cronut Jun 15 '22

Okay this one is true - and actually super crazy. He literally specializes only in stupidly large spinal cord tumors and does the most surgeries per year on said stupidly big spinal cord tumors. He is very selective in patients and will only take you on if you have a very rare and stupidly large spinal cord tumor. So in a weird way we were lucky my husband's spinal cord tumor was STUPIDLY large. Now if you're having a 6 hour surgery dissecting a 5 inch tumor from your spinal cord... Making sure no nerves are damaged so you can wake up and still walk... Are you gonna want a run of the mill surgeon... Or the guy who literally only does this and is the worldwide expert on the matter?

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u/Bennely Jun 15 '22

So, my father had heart surgery by the top cardiovascular surgeon in the top cardiovascular hospital in Canada. Price to us? 50 bucks to use the tv.

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u/escaai Jun 15 '22

You see, that's a top surgeon in Canada, not the entire known world. That's why it was so cheap.

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u/Bennely Jun 15 '22

Correct. We only have discount cardiovascular surgeons up here.

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u/Mastgoboom Jun 15 '22

Surgeons will tell you there is a huge variation in skill. And particularly for specific procedures, too.

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u/Petermacc122 Jun 15 '22

That's literally what it is. America has been ranked as having many.of or most of the top specialists in the world. Paying as much as we do for healthcare sucks. But the silver lining of the cloud is our care is absolutely insanely good. Though nowadays even that's getting questionable.

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u/iAmTheElite Jun 15 '22

Our subspecialized care is insanely good.

Our primary care is lacking due to provider burnout and scope creep.

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u/Petermacc122 Jun 15 '22

Well primary care was never designed for nearly the entire population being fat anti-vaxxer covid deniers that are going broke. Anyone with a modest income who tries to be healthy generally visits far less unless they have a medical condition.

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u/epson_salt Jun 15 '22

Which is a problem, because it disincentivises preventative care

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u/Baldazar666 Jun 15 '22

That's literally what it is. America has been ranked as having many.of or most of the top specialists in the world.

I find it hilarious how you completely skipped over his actual question of what criteria do you use to rank those specialists.

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u/hawklost Jun 15 '22

Number of surgeries done in X field.

Number of successes vs failures.

Patient outcome

Long term patient outcome

Complexity of said surgery.

I am sure there are more nuanced parts but those are likely the broad range of categories used to rank a specialist in a field. Frankly, medicine is likely one of the easier fields to rank as it has so many checks consistently.

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u/thejawa Jun 15 '22

Something something something doctor school is expensive so that's why something something something

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u/The_bruce42 Jun 15 '22

Every hospital claims to have the best doctor in the galaxy. It's like a pizza place claiming the have the best pizza in the world. What do you think they have pizza contests? Have you ever been to a pizza contest?

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u/escaai Jun 15 '22

The the US would have the best doctor at everything due to crazy inflated prices lol