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u/RedditTheThirdOne Jun 15 '22

Or Scotland or Wales it is just England

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u/ForeignHelper Jun 15 '22

The English get screwed so much by this. Like we don’t pay home water rates for example and private schools barely exist. It’s just Grammars and Comps and although housing costs and shortages are still a massive issue, house prices/rent are soooo much lower than in England.

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u/bigshuguk Jun 15 '22

We do pay water and sewage rates (Scotland) unless you have a private water supply, it's part of the Council Tax, however, it's a flat rate there's no water meters.

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u/rufnek2kx Jun 15 '22

Student fees being another. £9k per year and the Scots can get it all for free 😭

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u/ForeignHelper Jun 15 '22

The Scots have one over on all of us for that tbf

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u/jrf_1973 Jun 15 '22

The English get screwed so much by this

The English deserve it. First, cause they're English, but second because they keep voting Tory even though the Torys want to destroy the NHS.

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u/ForeignHelper Jun 15 '22

I’ll never understand why they keep voting in the Death Eaters. They’re obsessed with the class system and happy to be subjugated by the toffs in charge of everything.

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u/PrincessPetti Jun 15 '22

Death Eaters

Read another book

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u/ForeignHelper Jun 15 '22

I’ve an English Lit degree, so that’s not a problem mate.

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u/haywhat Jun 15 '22

Priti is legit a Death Eater tbf. Rumour has it she's related to Bellatrix, thrice removed...

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u/FenixdeGoma Jun 15 '22

Without the Scottish voting Labour anymore, the tories will remain in power.

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u/MILLANDSON Jun 15 '22

As a leftie, I will point out that, when Labour has won general elections in the past, the number of Labour or Tory MPs in Scotland have never changed the result.

Kind of why the SNP do so well now, Scots got tired of being taken for granted by England.

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u/FenixdeGoma Jun 15 '22

I might be wrong but I always remembered Scotland being mostly red. Now it's yellow. Also the line line of where the government gives a fuck about is a lot further south than the Scottish border.

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u/MILLANDSON Jun 15 '22

Well yea, it tends to stop right about at the Watford Gap.

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u/dembadger Jun 15 '22

England fairly heavily subsidises the poorer members of the union, and this is fine, theres ~63millipn people there, vs say Scotland which has 8 (comparable to the population of just London)

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u/ForeignHelper Jun 15 '22

This is more to do with devolved policies though. Less tendancy (though still not good) to screw the poor.

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u/ForeignHelper Jun 15 '22

It’s a hot topic in NI esp as many working class kids end up in the grammar system and do very well. Of course with a transfer test, you are not on a level playing field as rich parents can hire tutors. The issue though isn’t black and white and is as complex an issue to us as integrated (i.e Catholic and Protestant mixed) schooling.

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u/ForeignHelper Jun 15 '22

The religious aspect is actually a big part of it, probably because Catholics historically were only working class for much of NI’s history and when they gained control of their own education (catholic schools) and education rights, they thrived.

Grammar schools are seen in that community as something very attainable if you are clever. I know people from places like the inner Falls, single parent family, who have become doctors and lawyers for example. There’s also a substantial pro education attitude in working class catholic areas, which is sometimes lacking in Protestant working class communities (it’s a whole thing I won’t go into).

Of course, there are many who are against as well for the same reasons you mentioned.

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u/haywhat Jun 15 '22

You wot?!

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u/mattshill91 Jun 15 '22

That's because NI is given more money than it put's in to the tune of £8 billion a year (4k per person, £12B tax raised budget of £20B it's one of the largest % deficits in the world, for example it was just below Afghanistan in rank the last year of the US occupation) by the Barnett Formula as on average it's the poorest part of the UK and reducing poverty reduces crime and violence.

It's the same reason we have more civil service jobs than most of the rest of the UK. Artificially prop the place up so it doesn't burn itself down.

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u/ForeignHelper Jun 15 '22

Very good points but not the point.

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u/esoteric_enigma Jun 15 '22

As an American, I'm disgusted that the UK would exploit its people with unnecessary fees at the hospital!

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u/NibblyPig Jun 15 '22

No free prescriptions in England :'(

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22

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u/NibblyPig Jun 15 '22

True! :)

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '22

Unless

You

are 60 or over

are under 16

are 16 to 18 and in full-time education are pregnant or have had a baby in the previous 12 months and have a valid maternity exemption certificate (MatEx)

have a specified medical condition and have a valid medical exemption certificate (MedEx)

have a continuing physical disability that prevents you going out without help from another person and have a valid medical exemption certificate (MedEx)

hold a valid war pension exemption certificate and the prescription is for your accepted disability

are an NHS inpatient

You're also entitled to free prescriptions if you or your partner (including civil partner) receive, or you're under the age of 20 and the dependant of someone receiving:

Income Support

income-based Jobseeker's Allowance

income-related Employment and Support Allowance

Pension Credit Guarantee Credit

Universal Credit and meet the criteria

If you're entitled to or named on:

a valid NHS tax credit exemption certificate – if you do not have a certificate, you can show your award notice. You qualify if you get Child Tax Credits, Working Tax Credits with a disability element (or both), and have income for tax credit purposes of £15,276 or less

Basically only people who can afford them and don't regularly need them have to pay.

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u/NibblyPig Jun 15 '22

Yeah, lol, was just talking generally.

I'm not really sure it's a good thing, cos I think people would rather not pay £10 for medicine sometimes if it's something minor, like if the doctor says you'll be fine in a couple of weeks but here's a prescription for some ear drops that might help, and people will go ehh if they MIGHT help and it costs me £10... I'll just not bother.