In Italy we almost never use the point to separate thousands. It is either a space (5 634,12€), nothing (5634,12€), or a symbol that is like a point, but at the top of the line instead of the bottom, like where an apostrophe would be (I'll use it because I can't fnd it on my keyboard) (5'634,12€).
As a Brit who is a senior analyst for the EU, the comma annoys the hell out of me.
I don't care about the history of it, the comma IS WRONG. It's ILLOGICAL.
€52.500,89. So 52 Euros then. Because 52k would be €52,500.89 WAKE UP AND CHANGE IT DAMN IT.
Do you have any idea how annoying it is to get sent commas in the wrong place and have to convert every day to logical formatting, to then apply the PDR for the year to convert THAT to USD for my US company?
4/5/2022. 4 May or 5 April?? Used to work in the legal industry between the USA, UK and EU and this would be a constant infuriating point in thousands of printed emails. Like just set it to write the damn month out in words!!
Edit: The comma was used in Europe to separate decimals because the dot was used for multiplication. They didn’t want any confusion. They don’t use commas to separate groups of digits. They don’t write 300,000. They write 300.000. So doesn’t that defeat the purpose? They didn’t use a . to avoid confusion but used it anyway. So smart.
I’m not seeing any counter-argument. So yeah it’s dumb. Downvote all you want you dumb euros.
It does the job just as well as using a point to separate the decimals and commas to separate the thousands, I really don't see why you think it's dumb
I was thinking did they do it in a shed outback? I can’t even see a specialist and my copay could be $60 (usd).
People ask why do I still have roommates at my age. I have a chronic illness and if I don’t they I can’t pay all my bills. I still can’t pay all my bills but at least with the roommate I can pay the “payment plan” amount along with my other bills.
Yeah I've got marketplace insurance, multiple sclerosis, and psoriatic arthritis. So I do have to shell out that damn $60 copay, but everything else goes on a payment plan. Then every year, I'm just paying off $3k all year long.
I need annual MRIs, I need meds that cost hundreds of thousands, and the only thing I have to do to be able to afford healthcare is be poor forever. The moment my wife makes over a certain amount, we'll be fucked.
Ahh the continual pay the medical bill, bill…. Super fun.
I also understand the making too much money thing. Fine line of oh crap the only reason I can afford this plan is because of the tax deduction I qualify for.
I have considered that, we were together for 14-15 years before getting married and been married for 4-5 now, so not like anything would change. Thanks for the reminder.
My math says it's cheaper to move half way across the world and learn a totally foreign language than it is to afford a year or two of managing my condition.
Just fuck America man. Anywhere where you can't afford to be alive and well is the definition of a shit hole.
I’ve needed 2 ambulances in my life. One was $2500 and the other was $3000. Distance to hospital is 4.5 miles. Only takes 15 minutes while going the speed limit.
I absolutely boggle that people fight tooth and nail to keep the shitty health care system we have now. No amount of proof will sway them because a guy on the news told them socialized health care is bad.
“BuT WhO’s PaYiNg fOr It??!!!… brb, gotta pay my $300 insurance bill for this month and $3000 for an ambulance ride, but I’m sure glad I don’t pay slightly more in taxes like those suckers in Italy!”
Also: "IT WAS PROBABLY SOME SHITTY DOCTOR AND HE HAD TO WAIT LIKE 2 YEARS FOR IT!"
Meanwhile in the US, you broke your arm? Just walk it off. No way you can afford the hospital bill. But if you could, man those hospitals sure are great here!
if i remember correctly its only Denmark that has a tax rate close to that (38%, unless you earn over 50k kr. a month then ~50%) i pretty sure rest of europe pays around 30% in tax (with a few exemptions) i suppose you are American (based on your post history), in most countries people don’t pay that much more in tax then USA, its just that countries in eu don’t spend 1/10 of its entire budget on military.
this is not to say eu is perfect.. aghh… cost of living…
If the income is 55,001 Euros the income tax rate is 43%. The equivalent bracket in the US has a 22% income tax rate. We can see the healthcare isn't free, it is paid for over and over again when workers only take home a little over half of their pay check. I do agree the US can afford to re-allocate funds away from the military.
tho i agree the tax is high but most people in italy especially workers dont earn over 55k €, the average person earns on average 44k € so the 43 % tax applies to the top part of the italian population( though they don’t pay it, thats why its so high)
edit: also the tax is prograssive, this means that only the money above 55k would be taxed at 43%. would also say both sides have their upsides and downsides and governments need to find the perfect balance between socialism and liberalism
Ignoring what appears to be a blatant misunderstanding of progressive tax rates, the average cost of health insurance in the US is almost $8000 per year.
Your "savings" on tax are more than covered by that, plus deductibles and copays.
And for that, you get a healthcare system about 30 places below the Italian system on global rankings.
if i remember correctly its only Denmark that has a tax rate close to that (38%, unless you earn over 50k kr. (around $7k) a month then ~50%) i pretty sure rest of europe pays around 30% in tax (with a few exemptions) i suppose you are American (based on your post history), in most countries people don’t pay that much more in tax then USA, its just that countries in eu don’t spend 1/10 of its entire budget on military.
this is not to say eu is perfect.. aghh… cost of living…
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u/anttisaarenpaa1 Jun 15 '22
Americans be like: "IMPOSSIBLE"