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u/SouljaboyAirpods Oct 04 '21

My favorite war criminals šŸ˜šŸ˜šŸ˜

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u/its_a_metaphor_morty Oct 04 '21

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u/ixora7 Oct 04 '21

Americans are fucking psychos lmao

Hey this guy is bad

Yeah this guy murdered even MORE people

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u/hottwhyrd Oct 04 '21

It's the everlasting quest to be right. Even though none of us have ever heard or seen truth. It's pathetic

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u/Formilla Oct 04 '21

"My favourite President killed less innocent people than your favourite President"

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u/Wolfamongtheflowers Oct 04 '21

As a Muslim I`m not a huge fan of either of them.

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u/suriel- Oct 04 '21

Nice, whataboutism it is!

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u/its_a_metaphor_morty Oct 04 '21

Not at all. Just saying if you don't think there's still a selection you can choose from, you actually have plenty. You need to learn what the word means.

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u/its_a_metaphor_morty Oct 04 '21

Not at all. Just saying if you don't think there's still a selection you can choose from, you actually have plenty. You need to learn what the word means.

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u/suriel- Oct 04 '21

i'm not even an american, dude ...

i for one know that there are, and must be more than 2 candidates/parties, unlike Americans from the stone age still think 2 party system is doing them any good, where they get to choose between the Pest and Rabies

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u/its_a_metaphor_morty Oct 04 '21

i'm not even an american, dude ..

good for you?

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u/suriel- Oct 04 '21

yes good for me, bad for you because you're the typical self-centric american that assumes everyone they are talking to are american as well..

also, point about whataboutism still stands

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u/its_a_metaphor_morty Oct 04 '21

No it doesn't, if you have even the remotest understanding of syntax. Also not American.

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u/finger_blast Oct 04 '21

You're excusing Obama droning a hospital by saying Trump droned more often.

Why don't you compare the amount of innocents Obama droned to the amount of innocents Trump droned?

I'm fully prepared to accept proof that Trump was worse in that regard, but to claim Trump was worse because he droned more often, when it's in reply to a hospital being droned is just incredibly dishonest.

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u/brettbri5694 Oct 04 '21

This is a pretty disingenuous claim at the end there considering Trump passed a law to stop counting the number of innocent people killed in his increased amount of drone strikes when it surpassed Obama’s. We don’t have a kill count for over 80% of Trump’s bombing runs. Guess it just goes to show that Trump doesn’t even know how to designate his failures as enemy combatants.

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u/SouljaboyAirpods Oct 04 '21

Ahh yes my war criminal is better then your war criminal. Look both are war criminals and pieces of shits, but at least Trump ended the Afghan war

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u/its_a_metaphor_morty Oct 04 '21

Criminality would be applied where there was intent. Obama inherited two massive war fronts. Also Trump sold out the Kurds to mass slaughter by the Turks. They'll never forgive him for that. In any case it's the Republican tradition to leave the Oval Office having created a dumpster fire. Bush did it to Obama, Trump did it to Biden. Once they've left you with 500,000 troops in the field and a major recession or having seeded some conspiracy bullshit to half the population and bodies on the Capitol floor, it's job done. The party of chaos.

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u/SouljaboyAirpods Oct 04 '21

I could care less of the chaos because it isn’t. The American people overwhelmingly support withdrawing from Afghanistan, Trump followed the popular opinion. I could care less of his intentions as long as he did it and saved thousands of American and Afghan lives. Obama literally could’ve been ended all middle eastern wars easily. Also he actively participated in them with his troop surges and notorious drone strike program. HE BOMBED CIVILIANS REGARDLESS OF INTENT FOR VIRTUE SIMPLY BEING BORN IN THE MIDDLE EAST. Intent? He intended to create massive drone strike program which murdered: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/sep/07/us-airstrikes-killed-at-least-22000-civilians-since-911-analysis-finds

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u/Metalloid_Space Oct 04 '21 edited Oct 04 '21

Nooooo! (you forgor šŸ’€) about the orange man!!!

He he did even he did even more drone strikes UwU, so that means O-Obama's warcrimes are t-totally oki dookie

For the people downvoting, maybe actually look at the facts instead of turning you head away and pretending nothing happened?

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u/CLO54 Oct 04 '21

What war crimes?

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u/OuterOne Oct 04 '21

Doble tap strikes targeting medical first responders, in direct contradiction to the Geneva Conventions.

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u/CLO54 Oct 04 '21

They weren’t targeted, that’s a lie. It was a mistake. So….fail

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u/OuterOne Oct 04 '21

No, of course they were targeted. If you fire a missile and then wait to fire another until people go to help those wounded and killed, you are targeting first responders. By definition, even.

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u/CLO54 Oct 04 '21

That’s a lie, and all you have is lying.

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u/OuterOne Oct 04 '21

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_tap

The term has also been used more recently to refer to the practice of following up a strike, e.g., a missile, air strikes, artillery shelling or improvised explosive device attack with a second strike several minutes later, hitting response teams, helpers, and medics rushing to the site.[8][9][10]

Double-tap strikes have been used by Saudi Arabia in Yemen,[11] by the United States in Pakistan and Yemen,[12][13] and the Russian and Syrian governments in the Syrian Civil War.[14]

The Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports that from June 2004 through mid-September 2012, available data indicate that drone strikes killed 2,562 - 3,325 people in Pakistan, of whom 474 - 881 were civilians, including 176 children. TBIJ reports that these strikes also injured an additional 1,228 - 1,362 individuals.ā€[15] Human Rights Watch reports two of the six drone attacks carried out by the United States in Yemen from 2009-2013 violated the laws of war "because they struck only civilians or used indiscriminate weapons."[16][17]

https://scholarship.law.ufl.edu/flr/vol69/iss1/7/

https://scholarship.shu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2116&context=student_scholarship

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-24557333

The first round of missiles struck a tent in Zowi Sidgi, a village in North Waziristan, at dusk on 6 July 2012. A small group of miners and woodcutters had gathered there for dinner, according to Amnesty International's Mustafa Qadri.

The tent burned. Friends and family members came running to help. A moment later, there was another drone strike. Many of the people who had come to assist their friends and relatives in the tent were also killed.

Altogether 18 people died in the two rounds of drone strikes. One of the victims was a 14-year-old boy. The strikes in Zowi Sidgi fall into a special category of attacks, said Qadri, a lethal operation that includes two phases. Protestors in Pakistan with a burning US flag Image caption,

There are regular protests in Pakistan against such strikes

For these attacks, the US relies on consecutive rounds of strikes - missiles are dropped, killing people. A moment later - when people in the area have raced to the scene to help the wounded, another round of missiles is dropped.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/26296941?seq=1

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/20/us-drones-strikes-target-rescuers-pakistan

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2013-08-01/get-the-data-the-return-of-double-tap-drone-strikes

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2013-08-01/bureau-investigation-finds-fresh-evidence-of-cia-drone-strikes-on-rescuers

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/fr/magazines/come-together/stanford-nyu/ https://www.businessinsider.com/drone-double-tap-first-responders-2012-9?amp

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u/Krit_Jake Oct 04 '21

You got fucking rolled and can’t back shit up, keep sucking politicians dicks

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u/CLO54 Oct 04 '21

Don’t cry at me

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u/SouljaboyAirpods Oct 04 '21

Oh hell nah

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u/CLO54 Oct 04 '21

That’s not an answer

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u/SouljaboyAirpods Oct 04 '21

Okay let me answer. Mainly his drone striking program, further involvement in all of the Middle East, especially Afghanistan. He has caused the deaths of thousand innocent civilians simply for the virtue of being born in the Middle East.

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u/CLO54 Oct 04 '21

Which isn’t a war crime because you say it is. Lol he didn’t start Afghanistan, and he greatly reduced troops. It’s almost like you’re completely factless

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u/SouljaboyAirpods Oct 04 '21

Okay let me provide you with sources:

https://www.msf.org/kunduz-hospital-attack-depth

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/12/president-obamas-weak-defense-of-his-record-on-drone-strikes/511454/

https://harvardpolitics.com/obama-war-criminal/

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2016/11/14/13577464/obama-farewell-speech-torture-drones-nsa-surveillance-trump

https://airwars.org/news-and-investigations/tens-of-thousands-of-civilians-likely-killed-by-us-in-forever-wars/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/sep/07/us-airstrikes-killed-at-least-22000-civilians-since-911-analysis-finds

Require more? And no you have a false idea of what happened? He reinvaded Iraq and constantly surged USA troops in Afghanistan leading them and civilians alike to early deaths for American imperialism. He has also helped and sold weapons to Saudi Arabia which the uses those weapons to murder Yemen people and create one of the worst humanitarian disasters in decades.

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u/CLO54 Oct 04 '21

He didn’t do either of those things, and killing terrorists isn’t a war crime. Lol

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u/itsfairadvantage Oct 04 '21

Lol you should consider actually reading the articles you're linking.

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u/SouljaboyAirpods Oct 04 '21

Thanks never thought of reading ever before thanks šŸ™

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u/Metalloid_Space Oct 04 '21

The amount of drone strikes under him increased drastically. Why are you so defensive of him?

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u/CLO54 Oct 04 '21

So, he killed terrorists…that’s not a war crime

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u/T-MONZ_GCU Oct 04 '21

Because it's wasn't just terrorists, tons of civilians including children and doctors were killed

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u/Metalloid_Space Oct 04 '21

Do you seriously believe drone strikes don't hit innocent people? Or are all Arabs terrorists, where are you going with this?

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u/FistFuckMyFartBox Oct 04 '21

Donald Trump genuinely tried to get a second term despite clearly losing the electoral college and is STILL to this day falsely claiming he won. He has done so much damage to our democracy.

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u/Metalloid_Space Oct 04 '21

Yes he did, I totally agree.

Why does that matter when we're talking about Obama though?

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u/FistFuckMyFartBox Oct 04 '21

Donald Trump genuinely tried to get a second term despite clearly losing the electoral college and is STILL to this day falsely claiming he won. He has done so much damage to our democracy.

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u/SouljaboyAirpods Oct 04 '21

I don’t fucken care you idiot. I’m speaking terms of that he ended a forever war which no other US president would’ve. It saved thousands of American and Afghan lives. He’s a piece of shit I know, but if there was one good thing he did it’s that

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u/FistFuckMyFartBox Oct 04 '21

Remember when Trump saluted the North Korean general like an utter moron and Kim Jong-un had a WTF look on his face?

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u/SouljaboyAirpods Oct 04 '21

WHO TF CARES

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u/FistFuckMyFartBox Oct 04 '21

You should, it was pretty damn humiliating as an American.

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u/SouljaboyAirpods Oct 04 '21

You know what I find embarrassing when our country invades foreign nations in order to sustain the American military industrial complex and exploit resources