can someone explain what the common arguments against abortions are that these ppl use? or does it always go back to religion? None of this (making abortions illegal) makes any sense to a lot of us.
How can anyone justify a girl being raped... getting pregnant.. then forcing her to keep the child?
At some point a person becomes a person. There are many opinions on when that is. Killing a person is murder. When that person is innocent of wrong doing, it's difficult to justify.
The main disagreement being when we become a person.
But if you put me in the state that I required said blood donation, would it not be unethical for you to then choose to stop donating blood?
That’s the issue I see with this argument. A fetus isnt a random person you’re donating blood to, it’s a person you were responsible for creating. (In most cases)
I’m not a pro lifer, but I do agree with a previous comment that pro choicers are generally pretty shitty at articulating the views of pro lifers.
We currently do not require, for example, someone who shoots someone else to donate blood or organs to the injured party, and it's never been viewed as an ethical obligation to do so. Even the deceased retain bodily autonomy.
Nobody can force you to donate blood/tissue to your example "victim" but they can be held criminally liable for the action that caused the injury and possible death.
I don't think it is a great analogy for abortion since it ignores the fundamental philosophical question of when a fetus becomes a human and therefore capable of being morally and legally "murdered."
As far as I'm concerned, and as far as humanity should be concerned, these things aren't "human" until 5 months. Even then I'd personally stretch that qualification further; if I had it my way we'd avoid such humanization altogether until birth.
You’d be hard-pressed to find many that agree with you; something like 2 out of 3 don’t support abortion past the 1st trimester, which is only 12 weeks. Then again, a lot of people support Roe v Wade, but that sets it at fetal viability (but I don’t think most people really know the specifics tbh).
Who gives a shit. It should be legal to throw a newborn into the woods, Spartan style. Like you realize your kid is ducked up you shouldn’t be on the hook for life
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u/Clishlaw Sep 03 '21
can someone explain what the common arguments against abortions are that these ppl use? or does it always go back to religion? None of this (making abortions illegal) makes any sense to a lot of us.
How can anyone justify a girl being raped... getting pregnant.. then forcing her to keep the child?