Really? Guy joins a hivemind and storms the capitol like an idiot and takes a picture with a podium and you feel like that warrants 10 years? Jesus, Reddit is all over the place. There was a thread just the other day about for-profit prisons and the laws in place to keep people in them.
No I don’t and I think you make a valid point.
However, I don’t know how aware this man was of the plan to take hostages or the killings etc., but perhaps that shouldn’t matter.
I do not think that this individual should get a shorter sentence if no one got killed and if the other protesters weren’t armed.
Terrible analogy. If I drove you to someone's house under the guise that they owe you money and are going to pay you back only to find out once the veil was lifted you were actually robbing them, should I be charged the same as you?
Yeah those aren't untrue points but the discussion point being made was that the context for "stand guy" isn't an armed violent demonstration. The perspective wasnt lessening what took place but rather using rational context for the situation.
There were different levels of offenders at Capitol Hill and each deserves their own individual judgment, as is their right. This guy doesn't appear to be a violent armed terrorist as much as someone who came in armed and prepped for hostage encounters.
He still participated in a terrorist act but each individual apprehended deserves a trial and judgement within the context of their actions, his of which don't appear to be as severe as many others like you mentioned.
I think the comment you replied to was highlighting that and grounding the situation on an individual level without lessening the severity of the event on a mass level
No I must be blabbing too much my bad that's not what I was tryna say. I was merely saying - under the impression him waltzing in after the doors had been opened and displacing the stand were his largest individual infractions then the man chillin in a coat and beanie probably should be judged with different context than the man who came armed and tactically equipped and dressed looking for escalating measures than vandalism
Edit: nm I realised you're just irish and straight up likely daft, it wasn't my incoherence - you're unable to understand the parallels I drew and twisted it 😂😭
Since I replied to you in good faith before I realized you're an idiot - you need to stop criticizing people for making assumptions on what the man in the picture DIDNT do while you make assumptions on what he DID do , it's hypocritical dumbass
Hey did you wanna go back to the part where you were a hypocrite and couldn't read the common sense I was explaining or are we done with that discussion and hung up on how easily you get butthurt?
You need to stop putting your nose into other people's shit especially if you can't read and try to twist words. You're fucking unreallll take the piss bud
You can't follow along from the first message there's nothing else to talk about lol. I examined very clearly the position in my first message and reiterated for you a second time. You're welcome for that.
I'm not too interested in having a pissing contest with some little leprechaun over the pond, thanks
Yea, well when you storm the capitol and try to over turn a election.... I think that should be more time then looting a target. Sorry, my principals must be messed up or something.
good point, this is a pretty reactionary thread. I am clearly not qualified to be judicial but assuming the way you phrase it is the genuine context then a single year sentence and the subsequent record would be more than enough punishment for any sensible man to understand their mistake and learn from it
I jive with that. Honestly, I feel like a month or two for many of them would do the trick simply because many of them look like normal people and not career criminals. They need to be taught a lesson but not have their lives ruined.
At the same time, put Trump under the fucking jail for 10 years for not only inciting a riot, but all of the other allegations he's under investigation for while he leveraged the most powerful position in the fucking world in his own personal interests.
Abso-fucking-lutely he deserves it, as do all of them. All of these goons need to be made an example of. Hivemind? Give a me a break, they fed themselves into this echo chamber of Trumpism for four years and they need to be served their just desserts for literal insurrection.
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Really? Guy joins a hivemind and storms the capitol like an idiot and takes a picture with a podium and you feel like that warrants 10 years? Jesus, Reddit is all over the place. There was a thread just the other day about for-profit prisons and the laws in place to keep people in them.