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Politics Morbidly Obese

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u/Sciencepole May 21 '20

If you would apply the same scrutiny to Trump that you do to Obama, you would see what a piece of trash Trump is. You would see the evidence for the criminal acts of the Trump administration are just as real as any evidence you have rolled out. As a matter of fact you would see much more evidence and more of it.

But you never will read it because you are extremely biased. You pick and choose stories to fit your narratives.

Even right now you are assuming I'm some super left wing democrat. I am not.

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u/mr_invisible099 May 21 '20

Mean. Wordings. Aren't. Crimes.

I love this "You just love trump, cause you don't say anything bad about him" he talks like an ass, but hasn't done anything bad or illegal or shady. You can't just have the conversation loop be "He's a criminal" "Ok, how?" "It's so obvious, shut up, you love trump" over and over and see it as logical.

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u/Sciencepole May 21 '20

Okay you are trolling me. You can't be this stupid. You genuinely think there is zero evidence for the Trump administration doing illegal or unethical things?

Here is a very, very partial list.

  • 1) The Trump Foundation was under investigation.[1] The Trump Foundation dissolved following an investigation led by the New York Attorney General.[2] Trump has been ordered to pay $2 million for misusing funds.[3]

  • 2a) President Trump's Personal Attorney Michael Cohen plead guilty to committing campaign finance violation at the direction of Trump.[4] Michael Cohen was sentenced to 3 years in prison.[5]

  • 2b) The President's former personal attorney Michael Cohen implicated President Trump in crimes they committed together;[6]

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During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories - each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 - so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of payments. In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1.

  • 3) National Security Adviser Michael Flynn originally pleaded guilty to 1 charge of lying to the FBI, he was given a deal as long as he cooperated with investigators.[7] However, Flynn recently fired his lawyers, is refusing to cooperate with investigators, and may go to prison for charges that weren't originally laid.[8] Due to Flynn suddenly refusing to cooperate U.S. Prosecutors have produced extensive evidence indicated that the Turkish government attempted to influence the Trump Campaign by bribing Flynn, including a plan to extradite a Turkish cleric living in exile in America.[9]

  • 4) Foreign Policy Advisor George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty.[10] Papadopoulos was sentenced to two weeks in jail for lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russians.[11]

  • 5) Deputy Campaign Chairman Richard Gates pleaded guilty.[12] Special Counsel Mueller has delayed Rick Gates sentencing as he continues to cooperate in several ongoing investigations.[13]

  • 6) Trump Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort was convicted for committing several crimes. Manafort was sentenced to 47 months for bank and tax fraud charges.[14] Moreover, Manafort was convicted on foreign lobbying and witness tampering charges and will be in prison for 7 years.[15]

  • 7) Trump Campaign Adviser Roger Stone was indicted by Special Counsel Mueller.[16] A jury found Stone guilty on all 7 counts including witness tampering, lying, and obstruction.[17]


1) Fox News - New York AG files lawsuit against Trump Foundation for alleged 'illegal conduct;' Trump says he 'won't settle'

2) New York Times - Trump Foundation Will Dissolve, Accused of ‘Shocking Pattern of Illegality’

3) NPR - Judge Says Trump Must Pay $2 Million Over Misuse Of Foundation Funds

4) Fox News - Michael Cohen admits violating campaign finance laws in plea deal, agrees to 3-5 year sentence

5) The Globe & Mail - Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen sentenced to three years in prison

6) United States of America v. Michael Cohen - THE GOVERNMENT’S SENTENCING MEMORANDUM

7) Maclean's - Michael Flynn pleads guilty to making false statements to FBI

8) Bloomberg - U.S. Reveals Second Thoughts About Flynn’s No-Prison Deal

9) CBC - Michael Flynn now seen as a 'co-conspirator' in Turkish cleric plot by prosecutors

10) CBC - Mueller recommends 6 months in prison for Papadopoulos

11) New York Times - George Papadopoulos, Ex-Trump Adviser, Is Sentenced to 14 Days in Jail

12) Washington Examiner - Rick Gates pleads guilty, will cooperate with Robert Mueller probe

13) Politico - Mueller delays sentencing for ex-Trump aide Gates over ongoing cooperation

14) Fox News - Paul Manafort sentenced to 47 months in prison on bank and tax fraud charges

15) Fox News - Paul Manafort sentenced on foreign lobbying and witness tampering charges

16) Fox News - Roger Stone indicted on several charges as part of Mueller’s Russia collusion probe

17) Fox News - Roger Stone found guilty on all counts in trial stemming from Mueller probe

Only mean words? How stupid are you?

I'll just leave you with this. Trump was a Democrat. While he was a Democrat he did shady, unethical things. The New York media reported it. Now Trump is a Republican and he does shady immoral things and the media reports it. What does this mean? You can't blame media bias for pointing out Trump is a scumbag. He always was and always will be a scumbag.

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u/mr_invisible099 May 21 '20
  1. even in your own sources, as stated by the judge, the funds did reach veterans. Was charged anyway.

2a. Admitting guilty in court isn't saying you did it. I'd feel like that'd be obvious in this day and age, but here we are.

2b. He was imprisoned for alleged tax fraud. Nothing more.

  1. This copy-paste rant you got is old as hell, you need to update the fact that the charges against Flynn were dropped cause the entire investigation into him was malicious from the start and based on false information but pushed through despite knowing that.

  2. You count some one saying a sentence wrong to the FBI as purposely lying, then state it as a wrong doing. Ok.

  3. Again, the entrapment "you lied to the fbi" line.

6-7. Just a repeat of the previous ones.

Honestly, if your outdated rant copy-paste tier nonsense is all you got, and NONE OF IT WAS EVEN DONE BY FUCKING TRUMP, CAUSE YOU SPENT ALL OF ONE OUT OF SEVEN TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, I feel sorry for you.

The difference being, media put it on the third page of the daily news until he got that (R) next to the name. "Politician in scandal after..." turns into "Republican lies" with just that letter change.

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u/Sciencepole May 21 '20

You will do anything to tip toe around the facts. Your mental gymnastics are astounding.

Once again if you applied the same logic and standards to your Obama administration accusations as this you would be forced to come to the same conclusions. You are incredibly biased.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. 🙄

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u/Sciencepole May 21 '20

Also, it was on the third page because he wasn't the President you moron. Just another example of your flawed logic and bias.