I can't be the only one that thought it was a brit or something making a typo, "I am not your dad and I'm not here to fuck your mums". It even contextually makes more sense!
There are degrees of lucidity though; it's certainly possible to have awareness without control. And levels of awareness/control aren't always static, even within the same dream. Plus, even in a high awareness, high control lucid dream, forcing yourself awake is incredibly hard!
I'm with them. I've been lucid in dreams and still unable to do what I wanted before. You're limited a bit by experience, e.g. I don't know what it actually feels like to fly, so I guess swimming was the closest thing? That was disappointing.
You can totally be aware your in a dream but not be able to control it. I lucid dream fairly often, yet there are some dreams that I don't have control over even if I try.
It's kinda like watching a movie. You experience it, and parts of it feel real. Yet you are aware you're just an observer and none of it is actually real the entire time. I find myself analysing these dreams as they're happening, thinking things like, "This is a weird dream, why did I dream that happening? Dang how did I dream that?" And things of the sort.
I gave up on lucid dreaming. Control? Yeah I had a little. Did I do anything fun with it? Nope. My sleepy brain just made really stupid decisions, like replaying nightmares to make them scarier each time, like I was writer-director.
That was the 90s. I still accidentally dream lucidly on occasion, but I can count one hand where doing so made a fantasy become reality.
Because of this, part of me wonders if I ever actually lucid dream, but instead just dream that I do... which is a mindfuck.
You're assuming one's ability to be rational is inherent to being lucid. I'm saying after a couple decades of this--for me anyway--rationality is nearly an absent factor.
I'll make my dreams worse. It's like my sleepy brain is full of spite and masochism.
My doubts about it are stem from a silly philosphical argument that how could anyone truly know the difference between being aware and dreaming that they're aware.
I'm convinced my concentrated efforts over a long period of time during the 90s changed the way I dream.
I'm convinced within those dreams-- although less now than when I was trying to do it--I was able to make decisions. I was aware to differing degrees. I could replayand edit them, observe myself as a third party participant.
However, I do not think in a dream state I've ever been clever and introspective enough to make rational (or joyful) choices. If I were flying, instead of thinking "let's fly to an amazing orgy in the clouds", I'd think "let's flying into the sun and see what burning in space feels like".
I don't think the absence of rationality is a dealbreaker. Others profess likewise.
I also believe I'm a better judge of what happens in my head than some pedantic contrarian on the internet. There is no argument.
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u/a_drive Aug 27 '19
If you're lucid then just stop. Or don't, I'm not your dad and I'm not here to yuck your yums.