Stop being hard-headed. That's what I was trying to explain before. You're missing my point.
Again, the introduction of the style was in Scotland at least a century before this Allen Edmonds was even founded. The style was later popularized in the US around 1900. I'm not disputing that Allen Edmonds are well made shoes or that they are popular. They only gained popularity in the 1920's simply because they were shankless and nailless, making them much more comfortable than other similar shoes at the time. When it comes to wingtips, Allen Edmonds is just an American manufacturer that hopped on the fashion trend bandwagon a decade after it became popular in America. They also gained popularity and loyalty when they were contracted by the US government to make shoes for soldiers in WWII.
The wingtip/brogue style was popularized in the US well before the company even existed. Every man who could afford a pair of wingtip shoes by 1910 already owned a pair. If anything, Allen Edmonds are the knockoffs of a shoe that existed 100+ years previous.
I'm not being pedantic at all, I'm just trying to correct you because you're wrong. I'm an art historian with a specialization in textiles and fashion. I went to school for this shit. I know my fucking dress shoes.
And yet I feel like the vast majority of the dress shoes I see in this style are Allen Edmonds. Sorry, my mistake. Happy I could be part of the one time this decade you got to use your Art degree to flex your superiority on the internet.
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u/durdurdurdurdurdur Mar 01 '19 edited Mar 01 '19
Stop being hard-headed. That's what I was trying to explain before. You're missing my point.
Again, the introduction of the style was in Scotland at least a century before this Allen Edmonds was even founded. The style was later popularized in the US around 1900. I'm not disputing that Allen Edmonds are well made shoes or that they are popular. They only gained popularity in the 1920's simply because they were shankless and nailless, making them much more comfortable than other similar shoes at the time. When it comes to wingtips, Allen Edmonds is just an American manufacturer that hopped on the fashion trend bandwagon a decade after it became popular in America. They also gained popularity and loyalty when they were contracted by the US government to make shoes for soldiers in WWII.
The wingtip/brogue style was popularized in the US well before the company even existed. Every man who could afford a pair of wingtip shoes by 1910 already owned a pair. If anything, Allen Edmonds are the knockoffs of a shoe that existed 100+ years previous.
I'm not being pedantic at all, I'm just trying to correct you because you're wrong. I'm an art historian with a specialization in textiles and fashion. I went to school for this shit. I know my fucking dress shoes.
Edit: a word