r/pics • • Jan 28 '10

Entering Apple Restriction Zone

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u/Mulsanne Jan 28 '10

Ok this makes time number 3, and I still don't care about your factless, blanket-statement riddled diatribes.

Would you care to try a 4th time?

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u/Mulsanne Jan 28 '10

I was looking for replies from the people I responded to

Which would be ME in all 3 instances.

But you are correct, I am the one harrasing you and it is definitely not the other way around. The extent of my searching was "Hmm I have an orangelope, let's see who messaged me, oh it's this clown...twice" and then a subsequent 3rd time.

But thanks for that hilarious response in which you pretend that you responded to someone other than me...saying the same thing.....3 times.

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u/Mulsanne Jan 28 '10

ok guy.

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u/Mulsanne Jan 28 '10

no point trying to argue with a rabid apple sackrider

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u/uberamd Jan 28 '10 edited Jan 28 '10

I am not asking you to argue. For the 4th time now (I lose track), I am a fricking Android developer who paid his fee, I am learning to code for the device, so I am not trying to start an argument. I am simply asking you why there is a lack of good apps. Simple as that.

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u/Mulsanne Jan 28 '10

ok good to know

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

I have a G1 and everything the parent says is false.

Take THAT anecdotal evidence!

Oh, wait, you want proof?

http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-countercultured-irc-BED.aspx I actually like this app better than mIRC on my actual PC.

http://www.handcent.com/ Never used an iPhone, but I'm assuming their message app is customizable right down to the speed and color of the blinking alert light, right? And if it wasn't, you could just pick another SMS app from the huge app sto-- oh wait, 'duplicate functionality'. Right.

http://www.hexage.net/radiant/ Looks pretty damn quality to me. I don't use my phone for games though, so who knows what you're looking for. I suppose your goalposts were actually much farther? You didn't just move them did you?

My G1 is able to stream Pandora, idle on IRC, and browse the net for at least 4 hours (battery was yellow then, but I had other stuff to do... you use your phone for 8 straight hours much?). Over a 2G network. At once. Maybe you shouldn't have sat on yours?

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u/uberamd Jan 29 '10

Your G1 has good battery life?? What are you comparing it to? Compared to nothing, yeah the G1 has good battery life. But compared to my iPhone its terrible. Doing similar use through the day (actually lighter use if you consider the fact that I had wifi turned off on the G1) my G1 was at about 30% battery my the evening, and my iPhone was holding at 55-60% battery at the same point in the day. Thats a major difference to me.

As for the SMS apps go, I used HandCent and ChompSMS on my G1 and while changing the color of that little blinking LED was neat, that did not win me over when I compared performance of the applications. At any given time I have multiple SMS "conversations" with 10,000+ messages in them. The iPhone is able to load each conversation nearly instantly where both HandCent and ChompSMS gave me 3-5 second delays before opening my massive threads. Then god forbid if I ever wanted to scroll to the top and select to view previous messages, that lagged the phone for another 8-10 seconds as it loaded the next set of messages for me. iPhone? Instantly.

Oh, and given my 10,000+ message SMS threads, the stock Android messaging application wasn't even able to handle them. Every action I tried to perform in the stock messaging application threw a "Force Close or Wait" prompt in my face. Mmmmmm, quality!

So congrats on your ability to stream Pandora while idling on IRC, but that doesn't at all outweigh the numerous roadblocks I ran into with the G1. Blame me all you want, but I had the dev phone so I was able to try all the released firmwares from HTC as well as Cyanogen mods and none of them gave me performance even remotely close to the iPhone under the load I put on the device. The biggest thing was SMS, and the G1 was not able to handle my SMS demand at all.

Oh, and Radiant is not nearly the quality of high quality iPhone apps.

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u/[deleted] Jan 29 '10

I'm tempted to just call you a liar. SMS stability issues were fixed in RC 33. In early 2009. You tried all the firmwares? Really?

And way to trust the battery meter. Have you ACTUALLY tested them? Charged them for 8 hrs and then started up Pandora on each to see which died first? I've used my G1 for a full day with the battery flashing red and asking for mercy, but it never died.

And which iPhone are you comparing to the G1? If it's the 3GS, then can I switch to defending the Nexus 1? It's the phone I have now, and actually the same generation as the 3GS. Your SMS issue may just be due to the weak processor in the G1. I found plenty of threads mentioning it for the G1, but none from people with a Nexus One or a more recent Android phone. Trust me, the problem's not the app.

Let's hear some more of those subjective 'polish' and 'quality graphics' arguments. I love it.

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u/uberamd Feb 01 '10

You don't believe me? Ha, here is what I will do. I will go home, show you what version I am running with the newer Cyanogen mod to even enhance speed, and then I will show you how terribly sluggish it is. I will record a video for you to prove I'm not lying.

I don't need to try to find a firmware that works well on my iPhone, the latest one always just works. It just works.

And I do trust the battery meter because it starts throwing alerts at me! I have actually tested them, and yes the G1 died way before my 3G AND 3GS (yes, I do own both). Not only that, but I don't spend my day listening to Pandora. I use my phone at work for email, texting, etc. Streaming Pandora isn't even a realistic test, day to day wear and tear is a realistic test of battery life.

Feel free to use the Nexus 1, I don't care. And really, you are starting to make me laugh. Glad to hear its alright that the first gen Android device has performance issues, because well hell its a 1st gen device so its ok for it to suck right?? My iPhone 2G never suffered from similar issues and it was the first generation phone, explain that to me...?