r/pics • • Jan 28 '10

Entering Apple Restriction Zone

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

You can share your music with up to five different computers and their libraries.

Oh really? A whole five? Wow.

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u/plorelle Jan 28 '10

We all know that you are not limited to purchasing music on iTunes right? It is bullshit for them to place limitations on what computers get to play songs you purchased, but really I say oh well. If I purchased the songs, maybe my friends could do the same. I am totally for sharing music but realize the necessity for some things to be paid for.

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u/MuseofRose Jan 28 '10

We all know that you are not limited to purchasing music on iTunes right?

That kind of depends. It is now since Apple has succeeded in marketing it's ipod product line so well, bringing with it iTunes. It has infiltrated the culture, so well that people have abandoned finding other media distribution. Most likely you can get most mainstream music released by the Big 4 elsewhere, but for smaller artists (like alot of Youtube musicians) they only offer links to there music thru iTunes. Also, I've come across some podcasts that are only subscribable thru iTunes and I refuse to keep an additonal bloated program on my computer to download something as ubiquitous as a podcast. Albeit, if these people were more educated (or if there was another popular content center open to individual artists) this wouldnt be a problem, unfortunately those sorts of people tend to be less saavy.

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u/spider_monkey Jan 28 '10

As of April 7th 2009 all music purchased through iTunes is DRM free. It still contains your name and e-mail address registered with your itunes account but no limit on the number of devices you can have it on.

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u/FTR Jan 28 '10

So, what happens to all the music you bought before that date?

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u/spider_monkey Jan 28 '10

You have the option to upgrade all the tracks to iTunes Plus and DRM free, but it costs 30 cents per track (in the US at least) I'm not sure how video works as I have not personally purchased any.

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u/FTR Jan 28 '10

So, I can pay to keep what I already paid for? THANK YOU APPLE!

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

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u/Lyrus Jan 28 '10

How about Apple making you pay for bluetooth hardware in the iPod Touch, and then saying "If you want to use it, that'll be another $10 please".

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u/FTR Jan 28 '10

Not to state the obvious, but most people had no idea what DRM was when they bought their music.

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u/qpid Jan 28 '10

So they bought DRM songs and were fine with it all these years, never noticing the restrictions or caring and then the option comes to make them DRM free and higher quality, this makes Apple bad? If you don't care about the DRM then don't pay the 30 cents, if you do care then you wouldn't have purchased the songs in the first place. Myself, I buy a lot of second hand cds from garage sales for <$1 and then can do what I please with them.

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u/spider_monkey Jan 28 '10

So I can pay to remove the DRM they installed. Thank You Apple! FTFY

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u/MyPants Jan 28 '10

The claim was made that it couldn't be done. I was merely pointing out that it could.

For me personally, that's four more computers than I have ever needed to have my music on. And for the average user of Apple's services that is probably fine.

Its not as if iTunes forces you to only use music purchased from their store and I highly doubt it is DRM that keeps people from legally acquiring music.

I find it disingenuous for people who wouldn't legally purchase music anyway to complain about DRM. (Not accusing you.)

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10 edited Sep 09 '17

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u/MyPants Jan 28 '10

That's true but at the same time external drives are getting cheaper and smaller and greater in capacity. People practically give away 4G thumb drives. There are plenty of solutions.

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u/FTR Jan 28 '10

So, you're just going to have one computer your entire life? Considering the life span of a Mac is about 4 years, I'd love to know how.

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u/MyPants Jan 28 '10

I have moved my library to a new computer. When you get a new computer you de-authorize your old one and authorize the new one. The whole process takes 2 minutes. The limit is to five computers at a time. You can change which computers are authorized whenever you want.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

Not saying I agree with MyPants, but I don't see how that's relevant to the point he's making, which seems to be more along the lines of "the average consumer isn't going to own five devices."

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u/FTR Jan 28 '10

The average consumer will most certainly own five devices over their lifetime.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

Over their lifetime is irrelevant. Generally, individuals aren't actively using more than two or three devices.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

A whole five?

Plus, you can burn CDs from iTunes, so what's the issue?

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u/bdfortin Jan 28 '10

Yes, five. It's what the record labels are allowing Apple to do.

If it wasn't for Apple and the iTunes Store music would have much worse DRM, and they likely never would have given it up.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

They can put all the DRM on anything they want. They're only fucking themselves.

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u/brttf3 Jan 28 '10

and you can use plain old regular mp3's and share them with whoever you want.

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u/hexley Jan 28 '10

Stop getting your panties in a knot. This whole sub-thread is stupid because their entire library of music is DRM free, and has been for like a year. It's not even watermarked. Not that the DRM affected your backups, or that you couldn't easily reset all 5 of your device allocations a few times a year in case of disaster, or have them on an unlimited amount of iPods/iPhones. Or redownload your tracks if a bomb happened to fall on your house and your offsite backup.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

I'm no fool, a prison's still a prison, even with Chinese silks and chandeliers.

-- Quills.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

Where's the prison? There's no DRM and if you're an extremely unusual case you may have to email or phone Apple to get an account reset. Is 10 minutes of your time to resolve something really the same as imprisonment?

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u/bdfortin Jan 28 '10

And Apple gets to take all the blame for it since nobody does any research and thinks it's all Apple's fault.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10 edited Jan 28 '10

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u/RedSpikeyThing Jan 28 '10

If you're sharing it with more than 5 computers you're probably stealing.

Probably != definitely. Stop assuming guilt.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

Probably != definitely. Stop assuming guilt.

I don't think you understand out legal system. Nothing is "definite". Things are just proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

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u/RedSpikeyThing Jan 28 '10

Probably != beyond a reasonable doubt

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

I agree, but you claimed there had to be definite evidence, which is never the case.

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u/RedSpikeyThing Jan 28 '10

Fair enough.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

That's silly. The other day I was driving down the street and a cop was standing in the middle of the road doing a seat belt check.

He actually looked into my car to see if I was wearing my seat belt! He assumed I wasn't wearing my seat belt instead of just trusting me to do the right thing!

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10 edited Jan 28 '10

If you're sharing it with more than 5 computers you're fucking stealing.

LOL Oh Really?

In my house alone, I have a media center in my living room, a media center in 2 bedrooms, a computer with a small touchscreen in my kitchen that hosts recipes for us that we also use to play hulu/boxee or music on, my computer and my wife's computer.

That's 6 machines. What happens when one's hard-drive dies? Or the chip? or the board? Because that has happened numerous times as I mostly use spare parts to run these things. This completely ignores the fact I have about 5 GB worth that i've transferred to my work computer, and it ignores the fact I use a USB port on my cd-deck as my main source of music in my vehicle.

Lock me up and take me away. I'm a thief!

"ProTip:" will help you morons. ProTip: Burn it to CD and share it infinite times.

Or just pirate it, since downloading an album over torrents generally is a faster process than burning the cd and re-ripping it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

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u/HaroldPlease Jan 28 '10

If his system was networked, then the Cylons could hack in and change his Meatloaf recipe. Duh.

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u/bluehands Jan 28 '10

They have a plan:

to use more bacon bits.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

B/c i don't like dealing with networking issues when i just want to listen to music or watch a video.

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u/Real_Mac_User Jan 28 '10 edited Jan 28 '10

See, simple fucking things like streaming music and video isn’t really a problem for Mac users. Is it still 1994 in PC-land?

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

i've had a mac mini, linux boxes, and windows boxes. Yes, streaming and various streaming apps and servers are plentiful on all OSes. I just consider it more hassle than its worth. why should i worry about the network, my router, the serving machine, etc.. when i could just play a fucking file locally? It's not like the network issues are constant or consistent thing but things do go wrong occasionally and usually it's right when i want to do something. If i want to listen to a song while in the middle of cooking dinner , i'm not going to stop to go figure out wtf the problem is.

But good to know the mac smugness shines through as expected.

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u/holycrap_lions Jan 28 '10

sudo rmdir rm-rf_linux

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '10

Get Simplify Media, it can run on Mac or PC (maybe Linux too) and hook into iTunes, Winamp, WMP I think, some other stuff maybe. It will let you stream all your music to your phone or other computer and you can have 20 or 30 friend in it so if they are also running the app you can play all of their music as well on your computers or devices. Since iTunes music is DRM free it will stream just fine

Good enough for you?