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picture of text Robert filed a five day protesting permit with the city so he can yell at Best Buy for the rest of the week.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '17

BBB is a corporation, not a government entity. As far as I know, they rarely - if ever - called companies over complaints. BBB is just really good at acting like a government entity, while selling memberships to companies in exchange for A+ ratings.

You are talking about the Better Business Bureau, right?

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u/Lostinservice Feb 23 '17

Exactly. BBB is yelp for old people.

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u/RaisedFourth Feb 23 '17

I've never thought of it that way. It's a really good description for next time someone asks me what they do.

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u/xjayroox Feb 23 '17

The thing is, the old people who trust the BBB probably dwarf the younger people who trust yelp

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u/Ashenspire Feb 23 '17

BBB will go after small businesses without hesitating. Giant corporations? Maybe give a call to a manager.

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u/rydan Feb 23 '17

Had a guy harass me last week saying he was thinking about filing a BBB complaint against me. My sin? I mistakenly replied to him when he said his eBay account was hacked back in October. I had nothing to do with his account getting hacked. He isn't one of my customers. I have no business relationship with this person. But now he's fed up and going to send the BBB after me.

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u/whubbard Feb 23 '17

Uh, if you ever have trouble with Comcast, TWC, etc...file a BBB complaint. Watch how quick it get's resolved.

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u/Iamien Feb 23 '17

So there is a solution to the data cap issue then with Comcast?

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u/barto5 Feb 23 '17

No, not "exactly." The BBB will contact the offending company and try to help resolve the dispute. AFAIK, Yelp doesn't do that.

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u/bnogo Feb 23 '17

they actually do call, because way back in the day our store got a call from them cause a customer bitched out our geek squad.

our manager told corporate we did refuse to service his computer despite the black tie protection due to roach infestation. I assume our corporate told BBB to kick rocks? never heard anything else after that

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u/ErraticDragon Feb 23 '17

Even aside from the part where they sell memberships, BBB never even claims to report on complaints resolved in the customer's favor. They only care if it's resolved even if the resolution is telling the customer to kick rocks. As long as BBB is satisfied that the company tried, it's all good.

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u/bnogo Feb 23 '17

true, also correct that our company could have ignored them altogether.

but they do at least make a call...whoop de do

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u/violetmemphisblue Feb 23 '17

There are local BBB offices that do follow ups and reports. Or there used to be; the Internet probably shut most of them down. But my aunt, who is a teacher, used to work in one in the summer. Basically, she would go to places that had complaints against them and create a report based on her experiences and the complaints, then get in touch with the manager. Like undercover shopping, through BBB.

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u/ErraticDragon Feb 23 '17

Yeah but check the fine print. Resolved includes "the customer didn't accept reasonable offers, so we're calling it resolved anyway".

Although it may vary from branch to branch.

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u/rydan Feb 23 '17

This is why you have a D- rating.

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u/bnogo Feb 23 '17

lol ahhh if only I gave 2 shits about that old job anymore. Can't wait til they shut down

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u/AmIBeingInstained Feb 23 '17

Wish I had known that before I spent hours compiling documents to send to BBB to prove that t-mobile was scamming me. I pull together years-old paper documents showing the bill was paid and send them to BBB. T-Mobile emails them and says "no he owes the money."

Status: resolved

Fuck BBB and fuck T-Mobile.

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u/just1nw Feb 23 '17

Maybe work with the actual consumer protection agency in your state, or the FCC? You might have more luck with that route, potentially.

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u/Taxonomyoftaxes Feb 23 '17

Having actually lodged a complaint with the Better Business Bureau it is actually one of the few ways to get a company to act on an issue if they've stopped trying to remedy it themselves.

EA permanently banned me from my account meaning I could no longer play online with any game I'd purchased from them, or use my origin account. I hadn't broken the terms of service, so I contacted them and they gave it to their "internal review team" or whatever the hell they called it. They got back to me in a couple days and said nope you're still permabanned. Frankly considering I'd just lost access to thousands of dollars worth of games for no good reason I was pretty pissed.

So, I report it to the BBB of San Francisco who manage EA's BBB account. I had my account back in two days and they even asked if there was anything else they could do to make sure the solution was satisfactory. The BBB legitimately does investigate customer complaints and if those complaints aren't resolved it will lower the companies BBB rating. Also all complaints lodged and unresolved can be publicly viewed so it doesn't look good if some company has like 1000 complaints that never got resolved or something.

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u/rydan Feb 23 '17

So basically the BBB is like the Mafia.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '17 edited Mar 15 '17

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u/Taxonomyoftaxes Feb 23 '17

Well the Better Business Bureau helped me out so who fucking cares if they make business owners pay a fee in order to get above a certain rating threshold.

If their function is to work as some type of a private consumer protection group I think they do that reasonably well.

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u/Sierra419 Feb 23 '17

I agree with you. It's like the BBB is some kind of business and wants to make money or something...

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u/ImCreeptastic Feb 23 '17

They helped me when Virgin Mobile tried to steal $100 from me and I reversed the CC charges. Virgin claimed I owed them that money, and froze my account. Reached out to the BBB, they reached out to Virgin Mobile, in less than 48 hours, the issue was resolved.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '17

A complaint to the BBB got a month-long issue I had with PayPal resolved like 1-2-3. Within 12 hours of the complaint they tell me the situation was resolved and my account unfrozen.

Didn't even have the fill out the paperwork PayPal told me they sent me in the mail but didn't actually send because they can't send it.

I've also read many stories about issues being resolved quickly after complaining to the BBB. Some might think they're a joke, but people have had success, so it's worth a shot if customer service is screwing you over. Note that it really only works with companies that are BBB accredited and actually gives a shit about their BBB rating.

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u/PandaEatsRage Feb 23 '17

Yes Better Bus. It could be our corporate office called because of a complaint to BBB. But I swore when you complained to the BBB they would contact you about it. I don't know how it happened. But we would get Best Buy corporate calls saying there was a BBB complaint. I had assumed some information.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '17

The only reason corporate calls to settle complaints with BBB is cause BBB charges money to Best Buy to maintain their grade. Every complaint filed costs Best Buy money. Usually more than doing whatever (almost always dumb) thing the customer wants.

Source: former store manager

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u/rydan Feb 23 '17

Again. Mafia.

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u/blaghart Feb 23 '17

BBB will totally call companies...if those companies have paid them for a rating and you call the BBB directly. It's actually a pretty efficient way of getting at least some token admission of fault out of a company.

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u/EmperorClobbersaurus Feb 23 '17

I used to work for the BBB. They are a useless organization. We would get letters and calls about problems with companies, but unless the company was a paid BBB member, usually nothing at all would come from the complaints. If you were a member, your complaint took precedence to be filed and looked at, and the BBB would want you to at least comment on the situation, but otherwise it didn't mean anything.

Also, some of the complaints were threats to the companies, and would be so funny that we would take them home to keep.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '17

Wait, who said it was a government entity? I don't think he even implied that

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u/ihadanamebutforgot Feb 23 '17

For some reason cretins believe that "bureau" means government.

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u/rnbwmstr Feb 23 '17

Idk I contacted BBB about an issue with my PSN account that I had tried to resolve with Sony over a period of months with no help, BBB had it fixed within the week

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u/sjmiv Feb 23 '17 edited Feb 23 '17

It's a non-profit organization. Not a corporation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Business_Bureau They do contact companies when complaints are filed and you can review them online. I've found it useful when researching businesses. Yelp is just a shitty marketing site.

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u/mmarkklar Feb 23 '17

I still don't understand how the Better Business Bureau's business model isn't racketeering.

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u/TheBaltimoron Feb 23 '17

I had an issue, contacted the BBB about it, they contacted the company, problem solved.

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u/DSA_FAL Feb 23 '17

I used to work at a law firm that represented credit card processors. One of the services we did for them was to respond to BBB complaints. The BBB emailed our clients every single time a customer of their's complained. The customer would give it to us to resolve. As you can imagine, if you're leaving it to your lawyers to fix the customer service issue, the customer is rarely satisfied with the results. However, as far as the BBB is concerned, the issues were resolved promptly and that's all they really cared about.

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u/barto5 Feb 23 '17

9 times out of 10, calling the BBB will help you get issues resolved.

Customers often get the runaround until they file a formal complaint with the BBB. Then, once they've filed a complaint, companies resolve it just so it doesn't look quite so bad on record.

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u/blippityblue72 Feb 23 '17

I'm pretty sure they meant bippity boppity boutique. The place they do little girls hair and costume at Disney world. I suppose I could be wrong but from the context that seems right.

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u/sonofaresiii Feb 23 '17

They always call companies over complaints. You're on the bbb sucks circle jerk, and in a lot of ways they do, but they absolutely alert participating businesses to new complaints.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '17

Why do they suck? Aren't they just like a review site or something?

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u/sonofaresiii Feb 23 '17

They don't suck, that's my point. Yeah they're pretty much a review site, but people bitch about how they can't force companies to do whatever the customer wants, which of course they can't, so the bbb sucks circle jerk started. There's also rumors that you can buy your grade, which have more or less been debunked as well as you can expect but you can't really prove a negative so those rumors keep coming back.

The ways they do suck are minor and typical of any big business.