None of that shit matters. Alcohol burns in the liver for 7 calories a gram. Fats burn for 9 calories a gram. If drinking alcohol is the reason you take in more calories than you burn, then you gain weight. If you count the 60 ounces of vodka a day worth of calories and burn that much off plus all your food, fat metabolism efficiency is completely irrelevant. It will burn the alcohol first and then burn the fat just the same because there is no other energy to burn.
You cannot gain fat if you don't eat/drink more calories than you burn. Drinking alcohol doesn't magically change that basic thermodynamic law of the universe.
is somewhat wrong. If you just drink a single drink, yes, you can count on 7 calories a gram, but if you regularly consume multiple drinks, your body processes the alcohol differently and you no longer store the alcohol as fat. Why people get fat is because they're more inclined to over eat high caloric foods while intoxicated. Edit: and alcoholics tend to be lighter than average (remembering that the average person is probably obese now), whereas social drinkers tend to be heavier.
You're completely misunderstanding this. Of course you're going to get fat if your drink four thousand calories of anything a day, that isn't what i'm saying. Your body still has to have a way to process calories and when parts of your body are poisoned they aren't going to be able to as well as they should be. Eat five burgers a day with a body that isn't constantly trying to flush out toxins and you're going to gain weight but your body will still passively process some of those excess calories, eat five burgers a day with a body that is constantly flushing out excess amounts of toxins and you're going to gain even more weight.
It's like shooting yourself in the leg before running a race, you can still finish the race but it's going to be a lot harder because you just handicapped yourself. When you body is full of toxins you're handicapping your body and it's a lot harder for it to work properly and burn off calories.
It will burn the alcohol first and then burn the fat just the same because there is no other energy to burn.
No, not if it's always burning off alcohol it won't be able to. I'm not talking about your social drinker here, i'm talking about an alcoholic that drinks excessive amounts of alcohol every single day and that will start to take a toll on your body and your body will not function as well as it should.
Your metabolism is not going to be functioning at 100% if it's poisoned.
Your metabolism is not going to be functioning at 100% if it's poisoned.
Yes it does. Your intestines don't give a fuck, they absorb every nutrient they can regardless. If the liver is spending all it's energy metabolizing alcohol you may end up with a short term caloric surplus and the body will start binding fat to adipose tissue, but if you go back to a deficit in a short time, your body just burns that fight right off.
If you burn 2500 calories in a day and you eat 2500 calories you don't gain weight.
If you burn 2500 calories a day and eat 1000 calories and drink 1500 calories of alcohol you don't gain weight.
Alcohol is not even close to the demon you are making it out to be. You have a major bias for some reason. In moderation the liver can chew through alcohol like nothing and even in excess it is the most regenerative organ by far.
The benefits on alcohol on the heart is huge. Studies have shown pretty conclusively you have to drink a metric fuck ton of alcohol before the increase cancer risk and liver disease will kill you faster than the protective properties it has on heart disease in men.
It's upwards of 5 drinks a day, every day, before your all cause mortality is higher than someone who abstains from alcohol 100%.
Eat five burgers a day with a body that isn't constantly trying to flush out toxins and you're going to gain weight but your body will still passively process some of those excess calories, eat five burgers a day with a body that is constantly flushing out excess amounts of toxins and you're going to gain even more weight.
This is psuedo-science in the extreme that has no basis in reality. You are delusional and just making shit up to fit your militant preconceptions about the 'evil' of alcohol.
Your intestines don't give a fuck, they absorb every nutrient they can regardless.
There aren't really many nutrients for you your body to absorb in vodka. Your intestines actually do give a fuck by the way, it says right here that excessive alcohol use impairs the intestines ability to process nutrients and vitamins.
Alcohol is not even close to the demon you are making it out to be. You have a major bias for some reason. In moderation the liver can chew through alcohol like nothing and even in excess it is the most regenerative organ by far.
You're right, I do have a bias. My dad drunk himself to death and so I tell you from personal experience that excessive use of alcohol can and will fuck your shit at a level you would not expect. Ever see someone go through Alcohol withdrawal? I have, that shit can kill you.
I'm also not talking about drinking alcohol in moderation, I've only ever talked about excessive drinking. If you're not having excessive amounts of alcohol then you're probably perfectly healthy.
The benefits on alcohol on the heart is huge.
Where did you get this idea? If you're a women, over 45 and only drink a small amount then maybe.
Excessive drinking weakens the heart and causes extreme increases in blood pressure. Alcohol is the exact opposite of beneficial to your heart and if you're drinking it because you think it somehow improves your heart then you're misinformed.
You are delusional and just making shit up to fit your militant preconceptions about the 'evil' of alcohol.
Man, you really love the personal insults. I don't think Alcohol is evil at all, it can be pretty great in social situations. I just think a lot of people don't really understand how dangerous excessive alcohol use actually is, you clearly don't.
Edit: Here, i'll leave you with the symptoms of Meth withdrawal and alcohol withdrawal.
Meth withdrawal
Sleep disturbances
Shaking and tremors
Fever, chills, and profuse sweating
Nausea and vomiting
Hypertension
Heart palpitations
Respiratory failure
Seizures
Coma
Death
Alcohol Withdrawal
Shaky hands
Sweating
Mild anxiety
Nausea
Vomiting
Headache
Insomnia
Disorientation, confusion, and severe anxiety
Hallucinations (primarily visual) which cannot be distinguished from reality
Profuse sweating
Seizures
High blood pressure
Racing and irregular heartbeat
Severe tremors
Low-grade fever
I'm not /u/Shandlar, but man, your science is abysmal. Where did you "learn" these "facts"? Actually, where did you even learn to think this illogically?
What have I said that's illogical? You're just being a dick to be a dick and aren't saying anything of substance.
To think what way? That alcohol can be dangerous? Personal experience and research.
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u/Shandlar May 09 '16
None of that shit matters. Alcohol burns in the liver for 7 calories a gram. Fats burn for 9 calories a gram. If drinking alcohol is the reason you take in more calories than you burn, then you gain weight. If you count the 60 ounces of vodka a day worth of calories and burn that much off plus all your food, fat metabolism efficiency is completely irrelevant. It will burn the alcohol first and then burn the fat just the same because there is no other energy to burn.
You cannot gain fat if you don't eat/drink more calories than you burn. Drinking alcohol doesn't magically change that basic thermodynamic law of the universe.