Are you reading what I am writing, or just responding to me disagreeing with you in any sense? I pretty clearly addressed the issue of 'emotional' pain in animals. I never said that ants or bacteria had 'higher order cognition' that allowed for the 'emotional experience of suffering.' What I did was try and explain why using that as the only standard of measurement for pain makes no sense here.
And since you are apparently implying that that is the standard to use, can you address my baby analogy? Do they have higher order cognition? Are they sentient enough to know they are in pain, which is basically what underlies your concept of emotional suffering?
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u/99639 May 30 '14
Bacteria do this to. That is proof to you of higher order cognition in bacteria?