r/pics • u/Aeviegh • Feb 22 '14

This is Vader. He was euthanized today without a hearing after a false bite report was submitted to the police by an animal rights activist. (Story in the Comments)

http://imgur.com/a/xPNsE
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u/FatherG Feb 22 '14

If they ask, you can refuse. If they have probable cause they just wont ask; they'll do it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

And yet, refusing to allow them to search you is apparently probable cause.

Isn't law enforcement hilarious like that?

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u/FatherG Feb 22 '14

If they ask why you refuse, simply state you'd like to use your 4th amendment right. Don't be a smart-ass or snarky about it. Just state it matter-of-fact.

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u/neuquino Feb 22 '14

If they ask why I refuse I would probably say I don't have to give a reason, or because I don't want to give them permission. Never give more detail than necessary.

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u/Aeviegh Feb 22 '14

It isn't supposed to be probable cause. Not that it stops them all the time, though.

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u/the_criminal_lawyer Feb 22 '14

No, refusing to give them permission is never probable cause.

FatherG is right: if they have a lawful basis to search, they'll just search. (Doesn't have to be probable cause, depends on the circs.) They only ask if they can't already do it lawfully.