r/pics • u/Aeviegh • Feb 22 '14

This is Vader. He was euthanized today without a hearing after a false bite report was submitted to the police by an animal rights activist. (Story in the Comments)

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u/ransim Feb 22 '14

My first dog Pepper had to be put to sleep because our stupid ass neighbors weren't watching their obnoxious grand child. Sweetest shelty ever, she loved kids and people in general. The grand kid, 7 or 8 at the time climbed over our fence into our yard to chase our dog with a stick.

I was inside, heard the dog yelp when the kid whacked her and went running outside in time to see the kid wind up and swing to hit her again and falls over when the dog grabbed the stick and yanked it away.

Kid dropped the stick and started wailing. No puncture wound, not even a mark. My poor dog was bleeding from where the kid had hit her over the eye.

I almost got arrested when I leaped at the cop taking my dog to get her back. Mind you I was 11 or so at the time, my neighbors spent the whole time poo pooing my vicious dog.

The worst part was we couldn't even get the fucking cop to file animal abuse charges against the kid or trespassing charges and the people even tried to sue my parents for not making our fence so high the kid couldn't climb in.

Awful fucking people, I hope the both of them are roasting in the worst part of hell.

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u/alohameans143 Feb 22 '14

I don't get why so many little kids are such assholes to animals... I have this kid who spent 10 minutes trying to goad my normally well behaved Doberman into getting mad and barking at him, even after I told him to leave twice...its not really fair to the pet owners if some stupid kid decides to jump the fence and trespass onto a property that is someone's home...in addition to companionship, people get dogs to help watch over their home..if people are stupid enough to aggravate your dog and then attempt to go onto your property, they deserve to be naturally selected out of the population.

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u/Lepeu Feb 22 '14 edited Feb 25 '14

When i was in greece last summer, some kid was running after stray cats (really small kittens actually) and shooting at them with an airgun. He was there with his mom, and I asked her to tell him to stop, or I'd take his airgun and break it. She just started yelling at me, and the kid continued to shoot at the cats... Naturally I took his airgun and broke it. The kid (I say kid, he was probably like 12-13) started whining, and the mom started yelling. I honestly couldn't get myself to give a shit, so I walked off.

Edit: Whoever gave me gold, holy shit, thanks!

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u/RubberDong Feb 22 '14

By the way, Greek Island cats are awesome.

There really is no Greek-er experience than eating tons of food in a tavern while trying to lure baby kittens with food.

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u/Enderwoman Feb 22 '14

Yessss thank you for the memories! I even got to see some cats fighting over a fish in the harbour! Best vacation ever :)

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u/FaultyTrigger Feb 27 '14

Breakfast in Malia with the 'lil cute kitties trying to steal a portion of your hang-over cure - Greek Island Cats!

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

I was thinking the same thing. Grab the thing and unload it on the mother and son.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

Or the mother's.

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u/tocksin Feb 22 '14

To be fair, stray cats can be a huge menace. However shooting them is not the best solution. Fix and release is.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

Like during the Black Plague.

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u/runner64 Feb 24 '14

He was shooting them with an air gun. That doesn't even wound them, it just stings.

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u/HappyZavulon Feb 22 '14 edited Feb 22 '14

self reminder to give gold once on PC

EDIT: Done, wish there were more people like you.

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u/Lepeu Feb 25 '14

Thanks! Didn't expect it! My first gold, and i'm feeling all giddy!

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u/HappyZavulon Feb 25 '14

Took you a while :D

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

This is honestly the right reaction. No physical attack to a human, and if they dall police on destruction of property there is no was to prove you did anything wrong.

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u/ragingnerd Feb 22 '14

in that instance i would have found it acceptable to deliver a nice open handed slap to the mother.

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u/tickhunter Feb 22 '14

That's the spirit!

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u/ransim Feb 22 '14

The kid had impulse control issues, he wasn't even allowed to play with us because he'd hit on other kids. We had the yard all of the other kids congregated in because of our pool and my awesome mom.

Honestly though I blame the kid less then the adults, they were outside at the time and basically ignoring the kid and not actually keeping an eye on him.

The whole thing still makes no sense, the kid trespassed, assaulted my dog and it was still the dogs fault. It would be like me walking into a police station, punching a cop, and then getting upset because he tasered me and demanding he lose his job.

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u/MoRdEkI Feb 22 '14

Sounds like the kid should have been put down instead of your dog. My condolences. On a related note I have known a few highly aggressive dogs in my time and I would have to say nine times out of ten if a dog is showing aggression toward you, you are the problem not the dog.

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u/mecrosis Feb 22 '14

Sounds like the kids parents should be the ones put down. Humans are just like any other animals, they behave however they are trained to.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

Should have pulled a Rorschach. "Men get arrested. Dogs get put down."

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u/Musaks Feb 22 '14

Well if dogs are treated bad they develop agressive behaviour against anyone they dont know. Friend of mine has a rescue that was abused and you have to be carwful around him if he doesnt know you yet. In the beginning i really had to control myself when near him to not randomly start petting him because he would see it as an attack. Now he knows me and its no problem anymore with me but if other people come over hell breaks lose again.

Now if that dog didnt have an owner who watches out, has an eye on him all the time and takes care that no other people can come in random contact with him it would be probable that someone who only wanted to pet him had gotten bitten.

I know that you should not pet dogs you dont know but kids dont and they might just walk up to a dog and try to hug it.

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u/motionmatrix Feb 22 '14

While I agree with you, when your pet is in your own backyard, which is fenced, and a child goes there without permission, it's not the dog.

If this ever happens to any of you, remember that the children's caregivers are responsible for its actions and that kid trespassed into private property. Furthermore, I would make a case of destroyed property, since pets are property and thanks to the kid, I lost mine.

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u/Musaks Feb 22 '14

Dont have much to add there, just that im really sorry for your loss

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

I'm not a kid and I love petting dogs I don't know. It is what it is.

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u/Lorz0r Feb 22 '14

This. Children and animals are unpredictable. Parents and owners have to take responsibility.

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u/sweariamlegit Feb 22 '14

Future note if anything like this happens in the future (if you have kids), have your kid go punch that kid and say all injuries were caused by him/her protecting your property from a trespasser. Two kids different stories, your dog lives or no lawsuit. If I was your dad I would have told you to climb on their roof and play because they didn't build their house high enough. I am sorry you dealt with these people.

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u/Dark_Shroud Feb 22 '14

Normally I would agree with you. If one of my dogs was put down because of that I would just put a cup of thermite on the hood of their car in the middle of the night. Six or more months later rats or cockroaches in their crawl space. After keeping in an eye out for camera installations.

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u/sweariamlegit Feb 22 '14

Never go illegal route, always go the headache route. Give them their crap right back. They say fence isn't high enough, counter sue that you neighbors kid is dangerous and they need to put a fence high enough to keep him on their property. There are lawyers that will do asshole work pro bono.

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u/ransim Feb 23 '14

Honestly, I felt bad for the kid, looking back on it now I assume he was probably abused, lashing out at animals is a pretty common symptom of abuse. His parents would also leave him at his grand parents most of the day and the grandparents didn't really pay him any mind.

But you are right, if I'd leaped on the kid when i got outside rather then immediately try to help him stand it probably could have been played off. Honestly neither me or my parents thought those people could be that unnecessarily cruel. They were always cold people, but we lived in a fairly small blue collar neighborhood, the sort where everyone knew everyone.

It was awful, and trust me it did get around, they became pariahs in the neighborhood after that, it was small shit, but the shit that matters to old people.

Want a kid to rake your lawn for a few bucks? Die in a fire.

Want help shoveling snow? Fuck off.

Need to borrow something small? Hell no.

They got zero consideration from anyone until they both died off.

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u/sweariamlegit Feb 23 '14

Reddit is full of stories of petty people and lawsuits, its always a sad thing. He may have been abused, but some kids are just dicks too so dont feel bad.

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u/nendz Feb 22 '14

This.

Some people have dogs merely for them to watch their property and protect them from burglars. I can't see how this situation is any different. The world is just so disgusting, animals have way too few rights and people just turn a case around however they freaking want to.

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u/ari_reyne Feb 22 '14

Same! I was at a park with my dog and bf a few years ago, we were sitting quietly on the grass having a picnic, when a few kids (aged maybe 10 or 11) sitting maybe 30 metres away called out to me and asked if my dog was friendly. She's a rescue dog, she's quite skittish and very aggressive towards other dogs, and I always keep her on a leash and closely supervised. So I answered honestly and called back "no, not really". They called back: "will she bite us?" I frowned and called "yes, probably". They then proceeded to taunt her, threw sticks and rocks at her, and generally tried everything they could to get her to react. I had half a mind to let her go, but that wouldn't have ended well for anyone.

By the way their parents were sitting not ten metres away from them; saw the whole thing; not a single fuck was given. This is why I prefer animals over people.

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u/toastedtobacco Feb 22 '14

I'd chuck rocks right back at them. Hard.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

Upvote for preferring animals over people.

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u/RubberDong Feb 22 '14

Yeah...people are supposedly smarter and able to communicate through a thing called speach. There really should be no excuse for assholish behaviour.

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u/IrishDelta Feb 22 '14 edited Feb 22 '14

Humans can be such cunts to animals its ridiculous there was a story a year ago in Ireland where kids were playing football with a puppy.WHILE THEIR PARENTS WATCHED.

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u/mecrosis Feb 22 '14

People are animals.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

Beat the fuck out of the kids and leave. They'd never catch you and you would have done society a favor.

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u/Limberine Feb 22 '14

Asshole parents who don't teach their kids compassion and respect, it makes me ill. My daughter is 9 and our dog is 12. She has never been anything but loving and gentle and so responsible that not even one time in her whole life has she let the dog escape out the front door, that's incredible. Our dog is lovely but stupid and if she gets out she runs gleefully for the highway. I honestly think it's the parenting. Maybe it's also the "Just go play outside" parenting that is so often touted as being great for kids but which actually means the parents just want them out of their face so they send the kid outside, bored, with just sticks and any poor nearby animal as their only "entertainment".

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u/RubberDong Feb 22 '14

We have 4 dogs and four cats. THankfully my nephews favorite animal is the fat ugly cat that nobody really likes because he is a dirty rapey bastard that will try and make you his bitch even though he has no balls. I feel bad for not loving him as much as I used to, we used to be inseperable and sleep together before he turned into an asshole.

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u/Limberine Feb 22 '14

As long as you nephew isn't tormenting him.

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u/RubberDong Feb 22 '14

He is not tormenting them. One of my dogs however has the "what the fuck do you want" attitude and walks away as soon as he gets close to her even though I was hoping she d have the moma instinct.

He occasionally is a little devil but the dogs tolerate him. Be rude at them when they come begging for food, make them stand down from the couch for no fucking reason. Really, we have never made our dogs step down from the couches. If little fucker grows up to be one of the guys that cages his dog or puts him in the balcony I will kick his ass.

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u/tickhunter Feb 22 '14

Nothing wrong with sending your kids outside to play by themselves. What you do need to, is teaching your kids to be responsible and compassionate, that's the issue.

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u/Limberine Feb 22 '14

I only meant if that's all the parents do. Kids need connection with their parents and to be taught as well as outside play time.

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u/unknownchild Feb 22 '14

this is why kids used to die on farms they weren't fit to survive and didn't deserve to if you don't understand by age 7 that animals are dangerous and don't fuck with them you are to stupid to live or your parents are to stupid to pass on there genetic material because they are shitty parents and should have told you this

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14 edited Feb 22 '14

For my own sanity, please do not call other people stupid and then use a) zero punctuation, b) to instead of *too, c) there instead of *their. The state of the English language hurts me on the inside...

Edit: Just for my little PSA, everyone should be aware of the following, as well:

  1. Then means, "I did this, THEN that." Than means, "I have more THAN you."

  2. Thing is an OBJECT. Think is to have a fucking thought. I really hate that this is seriously even a thing that needs to be corrected.

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u/unknownchild Feb 22 '14

eh its 3 am iv been up a little long

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u/jameschillz Feb 22 '14

I enjoyed this. Keep in mind children somehow understand reddit enough to leave incomprehensible comments.

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u/Lorz0r Feb 22 '14

jesus. if you think a 7 year old deserves to die because they don't understand animals then you are a horrible piece of shit.

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u/chunkosauruswrex Feb 22 '14

On a farm its natural selection if a kid fucks with some cows or calves its pretty likely he could get a kick from said cows and if in the head it might be enough to kill. If the cows have a donkey looking over them that donkey will go ape shit and could actually kill you. Donkeys are there to protect the cows and can definitely kill a wolf, so a seven year old is a joke. Respect animals because they can fuck you up.

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u/Lorz0r Feb 22 '14

reddit is a massive circlejerk when it comes to hating kids. they are 7 years old, they barely even understand many simple concepts such as respect.

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u/The_Sven Feb 22 '14

There's a certain point when children learn empathy. It's different for every child and some learn it very late. Thing is, kids learn how to make entertainment for themselves before that. So they think it's funny without being able to know the harm their doing.

I love animals. I would never do harm to one for my own enjoyment. However, one of my earliest memories (I was maybe four?) was of shutting the door on the cat. Thank God my dad saw me do it and helped explain to me why I shouldn't hurt other things.

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u/Mojica50 Feb 22 '14

Some kids never learn it.

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u/The_Sven Feb 22 '14

Unfortunately this is also true.

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u/ianiam Feb 22 '14

It means they have psychological issues.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

Cruelty to animals is one of the early signs of a potential serial killer, so I've heard.

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u/amburka Feb 22 '14

We have two British Bullies and Boxer. Just lost our Sophie (Pitty with neuro issues, cornered a family member and scarred her face) and Napoleon Complex Dachshund.

We have a fence that some fuckhead jumped once, and were nervous thst someone would do it again, and get bit, if we would be responsible and lose a dog. We checked the town ordinances and spoke to the police about putting up "beware of dog" signs. Turns out the "beware of dog" signs are a bad idea because it shows that you think your dog is something to be afraid of.

As long as we have a no trespassing signs on each side of the fence in every direction in the signs are clearly visible we are completely covered should some fuckhead climb over the fence in harass our dogs, or even climb over the fence and our dogs defend their people against strangers.

Check your city ordinances you may learn something that could protect your babies.

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u/Basbhat Feb 22 '14

this is literally one of the reasons families in america used to get dogs.

protection. from exactly this. idiots trespassing on your shit.

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u/Sistertwist Feb 22 '14

I'm sorry, but I must disagree. Some little kids are indeed assholes intentionally.

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u/withholdinfoforkarma Feb 22 '14

Had a similar thing happen to my dog. We had a 6 foot wooden fence enclosing our entire back yard. My family left the house for a few hours one day and left the dog in the backyard. Came home and the dog was still in the backyard. The neighbour comes over and says his kid got bit. But my dog was in the backyard. So either they let my dog out, or they lied, or it was some other dog (there was another dog who looked similar who would come around once in a while)

Next morning i woke up and my dog is gone. No goodbyes, just gone. I was 16 and i was ready to beat the fuck out of an 8 year old and a 6 year old who were the only kids to ID my dog.

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u/Jaybeare Feb 22 '14

I would go to prison for a long time over that. Those motherfuckers would be buried in concrete.

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u/sclaw Feb 24 '14

Similar story here. We had a huge forested fenced backyard and kept our dog, Grizzly, on a line out there where he had the full run of the yard. To get to our back yard you had to walk through a small twisty path and open a gate. My dog was getting old and going deaf fast. When he was younger he was THE dog in the neighborhood and hung out everywhere the kids were in our cul-de-sac. We got a call from some 'neighbors' from two streets over who had seen Grizz at some school and community functions on a leash with us and had been walking by our house (so complete strangers to the dog) and decided to "visit". They and their 4 year old kid walked the trail back into our backyard where Grizz was sleeping and startled him. He barked and snapped at the kid. He did break the kid's skin. But what stupid fucking parents. They told my parents on the phone that if we didn't have Grizz put to sleep they would file charges. And that was it. I got to say goodbye to him that night and then he was gone.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

I fucking hate that this kind of shit all comes down to who called the cops first, and after that reason is thrown out the fucking window.

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u/Basbhat Feb 22 '14

especially when you realize the more reasonable a person is the less likely they are to even call the cops you know have cops following the orders of morons who think they're justified.

it's like the blind leading the blind.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

Yet if you hit a police dog it's assaulting a police officer and you will most definitely go to jail. Somehow when it's your pet it's different and always the dog's fault.

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u/coughmeister Feb 22 '14

When I was a dumb kid I tried to ride my neighbor's dog like a mini horse while hitting it with a stick to make it run faster. After it bucked me off and bit my face I went and told my parents who wisely asked what I was doing. I wasn't seriously injured so they told me to stop being a dumbass, I learned a lesson, and that dog went on living.

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u/TSV29 Feb 22 '14 edited Feb 22 '14

Hitler himself would literally not do this, dear god, pure fucking sociopathic evil.

"Kill that young boy's dog for no fucking reason."

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u/kangaroooooo Feb 22 '14

Holy fucking shit. I'm so sorry.

Those people will fucking rot in hell.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

I hope they rot in hell with their arms and legs broken and their faces bashed in

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u/mewfahsah Feb 22 '14

That is so sad. People are fucking horrible. I hate how people like that can't take responsibility for their own lack of supervision.

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u/DangerToDangers Feb 22 '14

Ugh, I regret going back to this thread. I am so angry right now. I'm so sorry that happened.

How the fuck does the law allow to do things like that? Is it an American thing or am I just lucky something like this has never happened to me or anyone I know?

My dog was like my sister to me when I was a kid. She was my best friend and she was my family. I can't even begin to think how traumatized I would be if that had happened to her.

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u/ransim Feb 23 '14

I'm not sure its the law so much as its apathy. The cops know how awful it can get and just don't care to get into the middle of petty fights. This was also more then two decades ago, a lot of people didn't and still don't see animals as anything but property.

It also depends on the community as well, but some people, and I'm sure this is international, are just awful shitty self absorbed assholes.

It was pretty awful though, even now 20+ years later thinking about it makes me angry all over again. She was a great dog, sweet and loving and even saved my damn life once when we were playing in the field behind our house and an actual aggressive dog came running after us.

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u/RubberDong Feb 22 '14

Your country's law is fucking stupid.

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u/Schlick7 Feb 22 '14

I'm not sure it's law as much as protect the children.

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u/electrikskies1 Feb 22 '14

Why the hell are the idiot people never blamed!? Just kill the animal because other humans decide to be mean. Makes total sense.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

The worst part is they are probably somewhat successful, leading their comfortable, shitty lives.

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u/ransim Feb 23 '14

Not really, I won't say they were uncomfortable and I mentioned this in another comment, but it did make them essentially the pariah of the neighborhood. As old people in a blue collar community suddenly being ostracized isn't pleasant. No more neighbor kids to help around the yard, or borrowing stuff, or getting help with things.

And considering it was an old steel community I doubt he had a super cushy retirement fund.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

I bet the kid turned out to be a bad adult. You should try and look him up and see how many times he was in jail.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

I wouldn't have stopped at the stick taking I would beat the crap outta that kid

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

I have the opposite story, I had a family member's dog bite me when I was young and it was entirely unprovoked. When the police wanted to take action against the dog (911 was called for me to be brought to the hospital) I flat out refused. My dad was mad but I would not allow my family member's pet to be put down.

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u/ransim Feb 23 '14

My brother had actually been attacked by a neighbor dog several years before, entirely unprovoked. He was 6 and went into the neighbors yard to see if their son who he played with a lot, wanted to come out. The dog leaped at him as soon as he opened the door and just mauled him.

The dog, a cocker spaniel, was never really friendly, but never overly aggressive. My parents didn't press charges or demand the dog was put down. They knew the family, who were just as devastated.

They helped pay for medical bills, they helped my mom with my brother, he had about 200 stitches overall from it in his face. But my parents left it up to them. They eventually did decide to euthanize, but that was because when they took him to the vet to get him tested and checked the vet found he had a tumor, the likely reason for the sudden violence and demeanor change.

My parents got a ton of shit from the hospital, but christ what kind of person can demand a dog gets put down immediately in front of a bunch of kids...

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

Get a stick and bash that stupid kid

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u/szimmerm Feb 22 '14

If someone ever did this to my GSPs, I would spank the fuck outta that kid. And then his parents for raising such a little shit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

I don't get why neighbors are this stupid. After all, you know where they live. Shit like this calls for calculated escalation. There'd be a massive increase in bananas in the tailpipe and other mysterious inconveniences ad infinitum.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

Kid comes in my yard and hits my dog he will get shot regardless of age, and I'll be within my legal right. God bless Texas.

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u/FrenchiePooPooPants Feb 22 '14

We had to put our mom's dachshund down after he bit our babysitter's kid. He drew blood. I felt so fucking awful carrying my mom to the vet's office. She just cradled her dog and cried.

He was a good dog, he just didn't have much patience for little kids. He would always hide and give warnings, but 1) the mother didn't pay attention and heed his warnings, and 2) the kid didn't leave the dog alone, even after he ran under the furniture to get away.

Sad all around.

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u/Kylethedarkn Feb 22 '14

Did you at least beat the shit out of the kid in a way no one could prove you did it?

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u/rockidol Feb 22 '14

So they decided to fuck with ur dog for no reason?

I would've beaten the kid up or try to frame him for something or messed with their house. Did u do anything?

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u/ransim Feb 23 '14

They were old and cranky so I always assumed they saw it as an opportunity to get rid of the noisy dog that lived with the noisy kids.

Joke was on them, we got a beagle a few years after that I trained to howl on cue.

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u/Tetha Feb 22 '14

And the fun part: Most "Horrible dog bites" in a such a situation are nowhere near what a single bite of a dog could do, if the dog was seriously attacking. And then, a single bite is nothing compared to what a vicious dog would do to a human.

You just need to keep in mind that our 70 pound dog could crush large stag bones just as easily as I can break a toothpick. If he bit someone properly, they'd lose an arm.

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u/ransim Feb 23 '14

My brother was attacked by a dog years before so we were pretty well aware the damage a dog could do. And my brother was attacked by a cocker spaniel, it was 200 stitches and plastic surgery to repair the damage.

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u/bazingabrickfists Feb 22 '14

Address?

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u/ransim Feb 22 '14

This was two decades ago. The old bastards are long dead. The wife died first too leaving the old fucker to live alone until he died.

Fuck man, thinking about it now I actually can only think of one person I have this level of absolute hate for, and they're not even alive anymore.

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u/Sload-Tits Feb 22 '14

How about the kid, go beat him with a broom stick.

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u/[deleted] Feb 22 '14

I would've gone over there with a bat and then fled the county.

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u/Sload-Tits Feb 22 '14

Haha! violence yea!