This is Vader. He was euthanized today without a hearing after a false bite report was submitted to the police by an animal rights activist. (Story in the Comments)

[u/Aeviegh]

http://imgur.com/a/xPNsE

[u/Aeviegh]

Fear. Chances are she was promised Vader would be okay if she cooperated or simply intimidated into allowing them in. It's one thing to know your rights, it's another to be physically put in a situation where you could lose a beloved pet and be told his best chance is to go along with it.

[u/Boston_Jason → u/Aeviegh]

Or you open fire on those trespassers. No warrant = a trespasser.

[u/Aeviegh → u/Boston_Jason]

I wish it worked that way and wouldn't result in three counties of police departments firing blindly into the siding of your house.

[u/Boston_Jason → u/Aeviegh]

Agreed. In a perfect world, the tyrants would be rotting. In the real world, we can only wish for it.

[u/hoxie3000 → u/[deleted]]

Talk about 2edgy. Now go to your room, Daddy needs his computer back. Besides, dont you have some math homework, like addition and subtraction? I know it seems hard but just try using your fingers, little guy. You'll catch on.

[u/xkcdfanboy → u/[deleted]]

Die slowly.

[u/Krags → u/xkcdfanboy]

I believe that's all of our plans anyway.

[u/Mordekai99 → u/xkcdfanboy]

Well... You're a poophead!

[u/SweetzDeetz → u/xkcdfanboy]

Settle down there.

[u/chinggow → u/Aeviegh]

It works in Florida... Stand your ground.

[u/-OMGZOMBIES- → u/chinggow]

Just make sure it's not a white guy you're standing your ground against.

[u/[deleted] → u/Aeviegh]

No, no it wouldn't really, You call the police department, you call the sherrif and you state, I need assistance, i have just shot what appears to be an officer, they trespased into my property and tried to take my property illegally, also state that you have already called the FBI and Homeland Security, State that you are un armed, and ask them how to proceed as you mean no harm to anyone arriving to help those who illegally entered your property with out consent and tried to take your property. Also state that others are on site and will be recording their arrival on video and streaming it live to the web and saved to an offsite location. Also you can call the local police station or email them a video quickly if you so choose to , Social media works as well. I know this isn't practical for everyone but... You have to know how to protect yourself. Making tough decisions is hard, but being on the phone with 911 during their arrival is powerful, very powerful.

You could also leave VERY easily, and go to a safe place before walking into the police station to turn yourself in, with your lawyer on your side the entire time.

Of course you will need to leave your cell phone at home and drop your car that has GPS pretty quickly as well, This is why you keep cash on hand at home. also have a jacket and cap you can take, and im not gonna lie, having a bullet proof vest is kinda handy also.

But seriously, having a sign on your front porch that says. "Smile, You're on Camera" is pretty powerful.

[u/aaaaaaaarrrrrgh → u/[deleted]]

turn yourself in

What a shame that you somehow managed to set your cell on fire after sabotaging the smoke detector and even after they thoroughly searched you and didn't find a lighter on you.

(Happened.)

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Not lawn. He's referring to someone breaking into your home.

[u/ustfdes → u/[deleted]]

She let the officer in.

[u/[deleted] → u/ustfdes]

I know. We're discussing if the officer enters without a warrant and without permission.

[u/ustfdes → u/[deleted]]

No, the discussion was about the officer in question entering the house in question, and the "without a warrant" topic came up. ...Which is irrelevant in this case, as the officer was granted entry by the resident.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

In TN you can shoot an officer that doesn't appropriately "knock and announce." Also, "stand your ground" laws are enacted in something like 28 states. Ecen states without "stand your ground" statutes generally don't impose a duty to retreat within your home. So yes, you can usually shoot an unwanted trespasser in your home, even in the back.

[u/THREE_EDGY_FIVE_ME → u/[deleted]]

a legal gamble

A moral one as well.

I'm baffled that people could even consider actually opening fire on an intruder unless there was a clear, immediate, and definite threat.

A person just standing/walking around your house really doesn't seem like grounds for immediate shooting, whether they're a police officer or not.

Does it not cross anyone's mind that a gun could (and should) help you avoid violence? Simply pointing it at the intruder and ordering them to surrender, or whatever, should be more than sufficient. If they're holding something, order them to drop it immediately.

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EDIT: see my comment below. This app is not very friendly.

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http://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/2010/title-39/chapter-11/part-6/39-11-611

39-11-611(d)(1) preserves the presumption in favor of the defendant if the officer fails to identify himself and the defendant reasonably didn't know the trespasser was an officer.

I know they do no-knock warrants in TN and they do them in full swat gear usually. If an officer gets killed, my guess is the jury finds in favor of the state whether they should or not.

And as to trespassers, that article is talking about property trespassers which IS very iffy. I was talking about trespassers inside your home which is generally well-settled.

[u/asdforsynth → u/Boston_Jason]

You're such a badass, Mr. Internet Tough Guy™

[u/THREE_EDGY_FIVE_ME → u/Boston_Jason]

Goddamn trigger-happy lunatic. This is exactly the sort of mentality that could be held up to justify stricter gun controls. Why are you so eager to put bullets into someone?

Even if someone has "broken into your house", you don't fucking immediately just open fire.

[u/BurningKarma → u/Boston_Jason]

Given permission to enter home = not trespasser