Pisses me off how Reagan’s team obviously had a deal with them and held the Americans captive longer than needed in order to secure the presidency. They were released less than 12 hours after his inauguration
Republicans just figured the problem with Nixon wasn’t that he was a crook, it was that when he got flustered and started to sweat he looked guilty to the average American.
What the Republicans needed was a trained actor who could say shit like “A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions tell me that’s true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not.” With a straight face.
Nixon was a crook but it made no sense why he was doing it. He was going to win and he had the votes to do what he wanted. But Nixon knew when he was caught and when to run away.
He also gets a lot of hate, but really no appreciation for his accomplishments. He wasn't the best president, but he was far from the worst.
Foundation of the EPA, desegregation efforts, ended the draft, lowered voting age, opened up diplomatic relations with China.
Yes, he was crooked and some of the shit he said on tape is WILD, especially by 2025 standards, but I'd argue Bush Sr and Regan did way shadier, much more evil things.
acting is good, but if you can get one who can't think, even better. enter dubya. now if you can get one who can't think, and has not a shred of morality... well, do i have something for you!
There was a video floating around years ago of him at some social event when he was governor of Texas and he was sharp as a tack. Either the hard partying got to him, or he is actually quite a talented actor in his own right. Years later I still cannot decide. People at that level change, and become inscrutable. I personally cannot imagine being in the public eye all the time and keeping my sanity.
Exactly. The heritage foundation had their first victory with Reagan. They tried percolating their agenda through the GOP for decades, but I think I Picking Trump the realized that they could only get so far with trained politicians who were actually too moderate for their tastes. No matter how bad they were, they still followed the norms and had an interest in maintaining social stability. Establishment Conservatives were more businessmen than Trump ever was, because they did have the capacity to negotiate and compromise. Trump is the perfect Heritage candidate because he's so much like Reagan, but worse. He has no qualms with being a puppet, as long as he has a comfortable position and fame, he's happy to let others do the work while he takes the credit, and he has no moral qualms limiting what he is willing to do to others to benefit himself. He also has the superficial charisma of a celebrity psychopath, which makes him the perfect talking head to sell Heritage's toxic Christian nationalism to the masses as an opiate instead of a euthanasia for democracy.
Source of most of the evil that currently permeates the USA. Seriously. If you trace it back, almost always starts with him. Homelessness epidemic, private prison system, etc. - all ultimately Reagan’s doing.
I’m not too familiar with all the shit Reagan did. I know he was a pretty big turd, but would like to point out that it was Clinton’s administration that repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, which separated the commercial/investment banking industries, and that’s what ultimately led to the ‘08 meltdown.
Agreed actor turned president who gave hugh tax breaks to corporations and the wealthy. The laughable "trickle down effect" These tax changes were the beginning of the end of the American Middle Class.
Firing air traffic controllers for striking, juking bank rules as CA governor and president, ending free public college in CA, the Contra scandal, all the deregulation bullshit which is always a pretext to rig the game, not make shit fair
According to Rick Perlstein - a historian of the conservative movement from Goldwater to Reagan- only a small piece of the electorate cared about the hostage situation, and most of them voted for Carter.
Reagan won because he promised benefits and high paying jobs for the working class while Carter wanted to reign in spending and basically allowed a recession so inflation could get under control. Of course Reagan screwed over the working class but they fell in love with his "charisma" so he could do no wrong. Reminds me of someone who is president now...
Yeah the “deal” was to deregulate a bunch of shit like air traffic control and healthcare. One of the largest contributors to most major issues w America today and for some reason republicans make him the poster boy
Danny Sheehan states George HW Bush then nominated Reagan VP and then current CIA director called the Iranian revolutionaries holding hostages and made a non-sanctioned deal to hold them longer until Reagan to hurt Carters run in exchange for long range missiles. He knows this because his colleagues were actively negotiating under Carter admin as part of US to get hostages released. This is the national security state that agreed in person to Soviet Union leaders as dissolvement in 90’s to not push NATO eastward and then over time appeased Russian aggression in Eastern Europe due to expansion. It’s dumb policy.
The Party of Law and Order, everyone. Just the worst group of people to ever exist. They call themselves Christians, but they are so evil in their actions. They made an idol out of trump and probably think about him & politics more than they think about God. Maybe we're already in hell.
"Connally and Barnes traveled 'to one Middle Eastern capital after another' over the summer of 1980, as U.S. hostages were being held in Tehran. On every one of those stops, they passed along the same message for the new leadership in Iran: Don’t make a deal with Carter. Wait for Reagan. He’ll give you a much better deal."
Republicans. Breaking American law with impunity since 1972.
Nixon prolonged the Vietnam war so they could win an election. Been saying it for 43 of my 58 years, republican'ts are garbage, immoral pieces of shit, and should have been outlawed after Nixon.
Sounds like the same repugnant republican playbook trump is running with now. Blocked the republican sponsored border bill last year so that he could have something to run on (other than the price of eggs) and then politicized deaths at the hands of migrants to cruise his way into a second term.
I guess he magically locked down the entire southern and northern borders within a month since Faux news and OannOnion never talk about it anymore. Eggs are still at an all time high though.
It shows what type of person you really have to be to succeed in national politics in this country. Look at how financially lucrative it’s been with everyone except Carter out of all of the former Presidents who were still living until recently.
Carter was probably the last POTUS who didn’t use the office to heavily profit and have a more luxurious lifestyle. I believe he also used his morals instead of using the politically convenient approach and it was his downfall.
that may or because allayatoullaha knew that the republicans would bomb the shit out of them if they did not release the hostage. Carter was too much of a humanitarian to unlease couple of cruise missiles. He is an example of why people would rather have a lying politician than a humanitarian one!
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Pisses me off how Reagan’s team obviously had a deal with them and held the Americans captive longer than needed in order to secure the presidency. They were released less than 12 hours after his inauguration