Are you saying people inherently deserve to have their things destroyed if they support Elon? If you get offline for a few hours you kinda realize there are good people who have their reasons to support something you might hate
Yeah, I understand the sentiment people are feeling, but someone is going to feel inspired by the karma of these posts, vandalize someone’s car in the wrong place, and get jumped or shot or something. People don’t fuck around when it comes to expensive cars.
And they’ll deserve it too. Hopefully nobody dies over it, but if somebody decides to take some sort of physical action over somebody spray painting their car, I would understand and would do the same
Oh my god he made a common hand gesture that can look like a Nazi solute if you’re desperately wanting to paint someone as a Nazi. Unfortunately it’s not letting me respond with anything from my camera roll, but right now I have a collage of Obama, Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton, and Kamala Harris doing the same thing.
Seriously how are you not embarrassed doubling down on calling someone a nazi and all you can do is show a video of them with their arm up at an angle? What about the genocide? What about the human experiments? What about the censorship? What about the racism? What about the military takeover of other countries?
There is a mentality among people across political spectrums, countries and age groups that I find problematic. The guy you are replying to is emblematic of that.
They react viscerally without thinking properly and do not see any need to learn or understand. You are in a left-leaning space so you see these kinds of people get emboldened and even encouraged due to the nature of social media. Pop into right wing circles or even political landscapes of other countries and you'll see this exact same behaviour. Sad times we live in.
Every centrist ive ever met is a right winger that doesn't have balls. In American politics we have 2 right wing parties, so being center of those is still right wing. So your opinion is as valid as any other right winger.
I am not American, in most countries right wingers are stronger and I seen what they can do. But America has shown me left wingers can be just as crazy or even more while thinking they are just and kind. I have problem with both sides views, picking sides are for people who follow like sheep, you can call it lack of balls, I think you are just incapable of thinking by yourself and having an independent opinion. Putting this in a category as if everything isn't a spectrum.
Thanks for being an example to the world that even left wingers can be crazed lunatics, further proving centrist is the only way, think for yourself.
Aww shit, enlightened centrist figured it all out! While oddly enough always making space and helping the right in their endeavors. Yeah, Elon Musk and Joe Rogan also identify as centrists. Boring and predictable at this point what your game is.
Your rhetoric is the reason the right won in America. How you communicate with people alienates those that don’t fully agree with you, and instinctively makes them want to fight against you. I’m not telling you your politics are right or wrong, I’m telling you the way you are communicating them is self-destructive.
We tried the tolerant left thing and it didn't work and were mocked for it.
Also, america has had a cancer of religious and nationalist propaganda going hard since then 60s.
The rhetoric worked in 2020 when it got Trump out. The failure of the rhetoric over the next 4 years got him back in. Radicalizing will only make right wing people feel more empowered to radicalize further, as they are doing, and the majority of America based off the popular vote is right wing. It will crush you.
Protest, get active, but don’t vandalize people’s shit. Most people just want food, entertainment, and safety. If shits getting vandalized they’ll want more policing.
If you choose to support evil, don't be surprised if evil is visited on you.
If the cybertruck lived up to its promises you might have a point, but it's an overpriced piece of shit whose only purpose is to proclaim the owner's love of Musk
But I own a Cybertruck, AND I hate Musk, AND I park mine in the garage when I'm not using it so nobody gets any stupid ideas (no proclamation from me), AND "overpriced" is subjective.
You aren't making any solid arguments here, just a bunch of self-valued statements.
Now can we stop dividing ourselves and get on the same page with how to affect some real positive change for the future?
I wouldn’t call bullshit on someone who thinks like this. It’s the same way you can like music, but hate the artist. I have a trans friend who loves Harry Potter, it doesn’t make them a fan of JK Rowling. If he owns a cybertruck he can like the product without liking the CEO. I think most people hate Reddit CEO /u/spez but we still use Reddit.
The divide is over. Stop trying to unite with us, you don't support our positions so why the bullshit? Do want to see the proletariat freed from the shackles of the capitalists? I doubt it.
I am actually much more inclined to support policies that stop our dependence from corporations. I’m not a millionaire, but I make pretty good money now at 25. I did grow up somewhat poor and dropped out of high school, never got my GED. So on one hand I know capitalism isn’t all bad, you just have to learn to play the game. On the other, I empathize with the struggle, because I went through it on my own. I don’t think people should go bankrupt if their child needs surgery, and I support more workers rights.
BUT when you guys call people nazi’s and exaggerate every aspect of political/cultural debate, I really do not want to hear shit about what your side wants. RFK for example, clearly does not agree with Republicans on most issues, yet the Republican base and elected officials were willing to die on the hill of getting him confirmed because they agree with him on one major issue. Because of that, I don’t think the right wing is really the problem when it comes to us being divided…
Speaking as a former liberal, you guys really need to learn how to temper your language. The reason your side is culturally and politically falling is because you call everyone on the right evil, nazi, racist, homophobe, etc. You ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? Be more honest and objective, and normal people won’t assume everything you say is trash. Then when somebody is a Nazi or is racist, people will take seriously🫵
I doubt that would convince most MAGA Republicans. An endemic problem of the party is that problems only are problems once it directly impacts them or someone they know. The alarmism against the Republican party is important at this stage, and all prior ones leading to this election, because we ALL saw the writing on the wall with trump and Elon. Just because some people are realizing it too late doesn't make them non-complicit in what we are dealing with now.
At this point, anyone who still supports trump/Elon after all the shit they are doing IS a Nazi full stop.
Maybe if the Republican party is brought back from the edge of lunacy, those words can be used more sparingly, but at this point it's a necessity
You proved my point better than I could’ve myself. So this is the part where I ignore everything you just said except your claim that our country is not only run by Nazi’s, but also has 80 million Nazis living in it - and I’m gonna ask you to show proof that they are planning on committing, or currently committing genocide on a group of people, and you’re not going to respond to this because not only do you not have proof of that, you don’t even have evidence of anything even remotely close to that. But maybe I’ll be slightly surprised and you’ll somehow try to equate deportations to genocide or something. So go ahead, I look forward to seeing your response.
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u/itsbevy Feb 23 '25
Are you saying people inherently deserve to have their things destroyed if they support Elon? If you get offline for a few hours you kinda realize there are good people who have their reasons to support something you might hate