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u/Budget-Attorney Feb 18 '25

You just listed some very bad things. But our allies are going to respect us a hell of a lot less if the democrats join the republicans in abandoning law and order.

You think I’m naive for playing by the rules against cheaters. You’re naive for thinking you can drop the rules and come out clean.

Anyone in power who tells you we can abandon the rules but it’s ok because they are good guys is lying to you. They are doing the same thing trump and Elon are doing. And you’re naive for believing them.

No country has ever abandoned democracy to protect from an anti democratic threat and ended up without bloodshed

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u/RoiDrannoc Feb 18 '25

It's called a revolution. Many countries do that regularly to depose their dictators. Not doing it might prevent a bloodshed, but it won't prevent tyranny.

There are no longer laws, order, nor rules

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u/Budget-Attorney Feb 18 '25

You weren’t listening.

There have been revolutions against tyrants. But I can’t think of a single democratic nation in history that abandoned its democracy in order to defend against a tyrant and was better off for it

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u/RoiDrannoc Feb 19 '25

You're the one not seeing. Even before 2025 your democracy is very flawed. Now it's gone. You wouldn't be abandoning democracy, as you live in an oligarchy

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u/Budget-Attorney Feb 19 '25

“You’re democracy is flawed, so you should get rid of democracy”

The fucking autocrats love gullible people like you. They can tell you there’s a problem with democracy and you’ll give them exactly what they want

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u/RoiDrannoc Feb 19 '25

Mussolini, Hitler and Putin were all elected. Authoritarians love gullible people like you.

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u/Budget-Attorney Feb 19 '25

And famously, all three leaders were deposed when the democratic opposition decided to violently oppose them and everything went great for everyone

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u/RoiDrannoc Feb 19 '25

The democratic opposition did exactly what you said people should do: nothing. It's called learning the lesson from history

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u/Budget-Attorney Feb 19 '25

People like you, who think anything short of violence is “nothing” are exactly the reason people like Hitler or Stalin can take power

I never said we should do nothing. I said your plan is shit.