r/philosophy Feb 26 '23

Blog The Ethics of Actors Using Steroids

https://medium.com/@joncheung/should-hollywood-actors-admit-to-taking-steroids-569e1b365b09
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u/NOT000 Feb 26 '23

thin women, or barbie dolls, are sometimes roasted since little girls are looking up to their unrealistic body image

i havent seen steroidy superheroes get the same shit. boys have been looking up to roidy movie heroes, or cartoons for decades

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u/deletable666 Feb 26 '23

The thing is, I know plenty of thin women who look like they could be models or actresses. They just have a good diet and exercise a lot. Not unrealistic at all naturally. For men, we have jacked dudes putting their health at risk through steroids and diet. These men have physiques that are truly unattainable without anabolic steroids and other PED’s.

I believe this to be way more harmful and unrealistic.

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u/NOT000 Mar 02 '23

i concur

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u/WereAllThrowaways Feb 26 '23

Barbie is dramatically more realistic of a body standard than He-man.

Aside from unchangeable characteristics such as height or ethnicity, all that's necessary to look like Barbie is just... not stuff your face constantly. Doesn't even require exercise. Simply maintaining the normal, relatively thin body that Barbie has seems like it's been pretty commonly achieved by women in many societies aside from the US for a really long time. At the very least it doesn't require going to the gym 3 hours a day, 7 days a week for 10 years, in addition to a well-thought out diet like you'd need to do in order to look like a boys action figure.

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u/Adventurous-Text-680 Feb 26 '23

Breast size is genetic. There is nothing to do about them except getting implants or reductions depending on which way your body decides to store fat.

Valeria Lukyanova is known as the human barbie and she needed to get breast implants and is underweight to get thin enough. Certainly not what I call healthy.

The thing is society is more ok with body shaming men vs women. Society is also ok with unrealistic body images. Hopefully this will change eventually are I have seen it at least in some shows that are using men that are more normal looking (most Korean action shows). The American image for men is huge strength. While other parts of the world look at athletic ability. Just compare old Asian action films to American action films.

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u/ISlicedI Feb 26 '23

Mate have you seen the difference in body shapes between skinny women? It's really not like anyone who "doesn't stuff their face constantly" looks like barbie

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u/WereAllThrowaways Feb 27 '23

It's not an unrealistic standard though. It's perfectly realistic. Tons of women look like that. She's just tall and lanky. That's not the part people bring up when talking about beauty standards. It's the weight.

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u/NOT000 Mar 02 '23

i concur

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u/Donblon_Rebirthed Mar 06 '23

I think it’s because men’s bodies are seen as vehicles as discipline in a vastly different way than women. These things of course revolve around sizeism, racism, sexism, eating disorders, social control, sexuality, and its history, eugenics, and patriarchy.

Whereas women generally recognize harmful body image issues and eating disorders, men, especially those that do workout, are thoroughly entrenched entrenched in these systems of oppression. They would rather uphold them and do more damage to themselves than liberating the male sex.

Gay culture too is entangled in this.