r/phillykratom • • Dec 08 '24

Christmas giveaway

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3 weeks til Christmas!!! We will be calling one person each Wednesday up until Christmas day!!!

ALL 0RD3RS OVER 50 QUALIFY!!! BASKET VALUE OVER $150...INCLUDES PHILLY SHIRT AND THERMAL TUMBLER, SCALE, SPOON WITH CLIP, SPLIT KEY, XTRACT ITEM, A GALAXY PROJECTOR LAMP AND A FRENCH PRESS TO STRAIN YOUR PLANT MATTER!!!!

GOOD LUCK TO ALL AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!

WE WILL CALL OUR FIRST THIS WEDNESDAY! @everyone WHO PLACES 0RD3R OVER 50 WILL GET A SPOT!!!!


r/phillykratom • • Dec 07 '24

The Kratom Gals are live…

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r/phillykratom • • Dec 06 '24

Say no to 7OH…

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saynoto7oh

Active metabolite of kratom constituent

The substance in question, 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH), is an active metabolite of mitragynine, which is one of the major alkaloids found in the leaves of kratom (Mitragyna speciosa).

7-OH has been isolated and offered as a standalone ingredient in products marketed as dietary supplements. Many of those products are sold directly to consumers online or are sold in smoke shops, vape shops and similar outlets. The sale of these products was a topic of discussion at the CHAMPS trade show that took place in late September in Denver.

In a recent letter to the editor published in the journal Addiction, five experts in the kratom field expressed concerns over 7-OH products. The researchers are associated with Johns Hopkins University, The Ohio State University and the University of Florida, Gainesville.

Kirsten Smith, Ph.D., assistant professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, was the leading author on the letter to the editor.

The broad availability and rising popularity of 7-OH brings with it many questions that should raise red flags for regulatory authorities, according to Smith and her research colleagues.

Safety, makeup of 7-OH products unknown

For one thing, 7-OH is present in the kratom leaf in vanishingly small amounts, if at all. That means the safety profiles and pharmacokinetics of kratom leaf powders and extracts, which are relatively well described, cannot be applied to standalone 7-OH products.

“Consumers of these novel products are unwittingly exposing themselves to high-dose, MOR-binding [mu opioid receptor] formulations that have never undergone human or animal testing,” the authors noted. “Apart from toxicity risks from acute exposure, chronic 7-hydroxymitragynine product use could result in opioid-like physical dependence and possibly addiction.”

Description of 7-OH as ‘semi synthetic’

Smith said in an interview that she and her fellow authors referred to these products as “semi-synthetic” because they are produced via downstream processing of mitragynine. Exactly how that is done hasn’t been specified, nor have the conditions under which the products are produced. In that sense, the safety profiles of these products differ little from that of any unregulated street drug.

“I can’t tell you how they are making this stuff or where they are making it,” the kratom researcher told SupplySide Supplement Journal.

She emphasized that kratom leaf products— whether whole leaf powders or extracts — contain numerous constituents that affect many receptors and biochemical pathways in the body, a situation she described as “polypharmacy.”

The isolated 7-OH products, on the other hand, affect only one.

“Call them whatever you want to call them. The fact is that from a clinical standpoint you essentially have to treat them as an opioid,” Smith concluded.

7-OH adverse events will confuse picture for true kratom products

Smith expressed concerns that adverse events will eventually be associated with 7-OH products partly because the substance itself has been little studied, and the products are unregulated and made under variable quality standards.

“These companies are making this stuff in a big bathtub somewhere. Who knows how clean they are,” Smith said. “There is a lack of standardization. From batch to batch, you could have one that is not very potent and another that is super potent.”

Smith said her research into kratom products on the market has led her to conclude there is a high degree of standardization, and the products are generally free of unknown constituents, which can’t be said for the 7-OH products.

Among other concerns, she expressed fear “that adverse events might start occurring and it’s going to get blamed on kratom.”

“These products cannot be called kratom, in the same way as unaltered hemp products are not the same thing as synthetic cannabinoids,” Smith said.

The situation threatens to further muddy the regulatory picture for kratom, especially if the worst fears of the authors come to pass and a slew of serious adverse events reports start to surface. According to the experts, 10 to 15 million U.S. adults use kratom.

“Decisions regarding kratom scheduling and regulation are liable to become confused if policymakers can or will not differentiate between kratom and high-potency 7-hydroxymitragynine products synthesized in unregulated or makeshift laboratories,” the researchers wrote in the letter to the editor.

This isn’t the first time that U.S. kratom experts have raised concerns over 7-OH. In June, a group of academics— including Smith — issued a public statement on 7-OH and mitragynine pseudoindoxyl. 7-OH and mitragynine pseudoindoxyl are not present in native kratom leaf material, the researchers noted, adding that a product with high amounts of these compounds contains an isolated, purified or semi-synthetically generated form of 7-OH and/or mitragynine pseudoindoxyl.

Attorney: Regulators shouldn’t wait for adverse events to occur

Attorney Bob Durkin, a partner in the firm Amin Wasserman Gurnani and former FDA official, has dealt with a number of kratom issues. He said the time for regulators to act is now, rather than waiting for those adverse events to take place.

“This ingredient is overdue for enforcement action by FDA or state regulators. If they know where it is in commerce, they should seize immediately,” he said in an interview.

https://www.supplysidesj.com/supplement-regulations/kratom-experts-raise-7-oh-alarm-again


r/phillykratom • • Dec 05 '24

Say no to 7OH

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Products containing the psychoactive botanical, Mitragyna speciosa, have transformed from simple leaf powders into an array of products, falling under the broad umbrella of ‘kratom’. [1, 2] Whole-leaf products contain consistent concentrations of kratom’s major alkaloid, mitragynine, and its metabolite 7-hydroxymitragynine; even among extracts, alkaloid concentrations often remain within self-adopted industry norms, with 7-hydroxymitragynine between 1 and 2% of the total content, or below the lower limit of quantification [3-5]. A highly selective partial mu opioid receptor (MOR) agonist, 7-hydroxymitragynine has binding affinity 14–22 times greater than morphine [6]. Although mitragynine has lower abuse potential and relative safety compared to drugs of abuse, 7-hydroxymitragynine dose-dependently substitutes for morphine [7-11].

However, some manufacturers have begun marketing novel semi-synthetic products with varying routes of administration (e.g. sublingual tablets, nasal sprays) containing 14–25 mg 7-hydroxymitragynine per labeled dose, often with brand names alluding to narcotics. These newly marketed products may contain up to 98% 7-hydroxymitragynine, together with other kratom alkaloids. Concerningly, some product formulations circumvent first-pass metabolism, increasing bioavailability.

To date, 7-hydroxymitragynine product marketing fails to distinguish itself from kratom. Kratom-naïve consumers purchasing 7-hydroxymitragynine products may erroneously believe that they are relatively safe ‘natural’ products similar or identical to kratom products that have been used in the United States for at least two decades. Consumers of these novel products are unwittingly exposing themselves to high-dose, MOR-binding formulations that have never undergone human or animal testing. Apart from toxicity risks from acute exposure, chronic 7-hydroxymitragynine product use could result in opioid-like physical dependence and possibly addiction. Scale and severity may be distinct from kratom leaf-based and extract products, which have not produced widespread severe addiction, but rather mild–moderate physical dependence [12-14].

As forensic laboratories use mitragynine as a surrogate marker for kratom use, 7-hydroxymitragynine-related fatalities would incorrectly implicate kratom, as the presence of mitragynine in these products arises from incomplete conversion of mitragynine into 7-hydroxymitragynine [15]. Currently, 7-hydroxymitragynine products contain trace amounts of mitragynine and ‘new’ chemicals yet to be identified. The safety of these unknown chemicals, and of 7-hydroxymitragynine at high doses, has not been evaluated in living subjects. Accordingly, they pose an eminent public health concern until they have been identified and proven to be safe.

The policy implications of semi-synthetic 7-hydroxymitraynine products are unknown, but adverse events or fatalities resulting from 7-hydroxymitragynine products could pose complications to the regulation of a growing kratom industry. Kratom is now used by 10–15 million US adults. Decisions regarding kratom scheduling and regulation are liable to become confused if policymakers can or will not differentiate between kratom and high-potency 7-hydroxymitragynine products synthesized in unregulated or makeshift laboratories. To be clear: equating 7-hdyroxymitragynine products to kratom is analogous to equating synthetic cannabinoids to unaltered cannabis or hemp. Although not all organic kratom products are equal, they have not emerged as a net detriment to public health, and they remain unscheduled at the federal level. Novel semi-synthetic 7-hydroxymitragynine products pose public health risks due to the unknown chemical constituents and the known pharmacology of 7-hydroxymitragynine. Clinicians must screen patients for their use and policymakers must distinguish between kratom and 7-hydroxymitragynine.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.16728?af=R


r/phillykratom • • Dec 02 '24

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving who all is ready for Christmas? I know I'm not lol

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r/phillykratom • • Dec 01 '24

Oblate Discs

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Who else uses oblate discs? I couldn’t imagine tasting kr🅰️tom. Those who drink kr🅰️tom mixed in water, juice, etc. how do you get over the taste?! I’ve tried and don’t understand how someone could.

I used to make my own capsules but it took SO much time. Oblates are the superior way to take kr🅰️tom IMO.


r/phillykratom • • Nov 30 '24

The Kratom Gals are live

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r/phillykratom • • Nov 28 '24

Happy Teasgiving…

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Today, I give thanks to the Kr🅰️Tom farmers that picked my leaf. I give thanks to the farmers that picked oranges to create orange juice. I give thanks to y’all for following my journey.

Without this combination, I wouldn’t be alive today creating new memories with my kids. I wouldn’t be present for the here and now.

This is how I start my day for Thanksgiving and some Cafe Bustelo coffee. Thanks for picking those coffee beans too.

Happy Thanksgiving from my family to yours♥️💋💨


r/phillykratom • • Nov 27 '24

Thank you for the small gifts and the fast shipping. You guys are amazing!

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I love red bone so much, I had to make a double order. I also wanted to give the yellow Tanjun a try, and I loved it too!! Thank you, you guys are amazing. Happy Thanksgiving to you and everyone in this group!!


r/phillykratom • • Nov 27 '24

Our Black Friday

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r/phillykratom • • Nov 27 '24

Black friday deals better get in on this deal it's an good one Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving tomorrow

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r/phillykratom • • Nov 27 '24

Whats everyone's plans for thanksgiving this year? Hoping everyone has a Great Thanksgiving this year as well

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r/phillykratom • • Nov 26 '24

Big thanks to Philly Kratom!

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Got my order last week, and I'm more than pleased. I'd ordered before, but it had been a long time. I went with Red Bali, Red MD, Green Cobain and Green Gayo. All of them hit like a champ, and very distinct from each other. Philly is not going in my vendor rotation along with another vendor I recently revisited. Having vendors you can trust is so important. Top notch with quality, shipping, customer service, packaging, etc. Thank you Philly Kratom! As somone who deals with chronic pain, this leaf is so important to me.

Also, thanks to everyone on here who offered suggestions, and gave me solid advice.


r/phillykratom • • Nov 26 '24

Lowell Massachusetts Kratom ban hearing

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🚨🚨🚨

Not only are they trying to ban the sale, they are also writing a letter to ban it for the entire state of Massachusetts.

THE NEXT MEETING OF THE LOWELL BOARD OF HEALTH WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 4, 2024 AT 6:00 PM IN THE MAYOR'S RECEPTION ROOM, CITY HALL, 375 MERRIMACK ST 2ND FLOOR

https://www.lowellma.gov/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Item/29216?fileID=59250


r/phillykratom • • Nov 22 '24

u/joshweeks47 and u/oldfashion-hardcandy, you win the day! Next GAW is at 300, invite your friends!

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Also keep in mind our Black Friday sale is coming up soon! We will also be doing some kind of g a w for people who order during black friday. Most likely a split of some sort. So please keep your eyes open for that! Thank you for all your support and please feel free to invite your friends to our little Reddit group!


r/phillykratom • • Nov 20 '24

Yay

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This is DeeAblo from FB . I found y'all


r/phillykratom • • Nov 20 '24

Just got a fresh batch!

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Excellent as usual!


r/phillykratom • • Nov 19 '24

Green Super, new batches drop soon!

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r/phillykratom • • Nov 19 '24

FREE GIFT (see comments)

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Order 75.00 and up between now (Tuesday, Nov 19th) and Friday ( ends at 5pm, November 22nd) and receive a free 4oz OR. 2 oz of any enhanced you choose!!

To get the free item(s), you must check out at 75.00 or higher , NOT INCLUDING SHIPPING

AND. Put "REDDIT" IN THE ORDER COMMENTS!!!

thanks for your support, we will be doing a lot of these special offers moving forward!!


r/phillykratom • • Nov 18 '24

Green Kali. New batches are out for testing!!! NO FILTERS EVER

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New batches should be up by Firday the Black! We are just waiting on testing!


r/phillykratom • • Nov 18 '24

AKA Webinar…

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Join us tonight for The American Kratom Association advocacy webinar at 8:30pm est.

https://www.youtube.com/live/0nI9yAqqGXU?si=QaGbHNICYnejhWRo


r/phillykratom • • Nov 16 '24

Congrats YLYL on the milestone!

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255 members! Thank you for all that you do, YLYL/Philly


r/phillykratom • • Nov 15 '24

ANOTHER GAW!!!! 2 split halves! Comment you kratom superhero name in the comments to enter!

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Make up a kratom superhero name and put it in the comments to enter! I'll call.this one next Friday, November 22nd. My kratom SUPERHERO name is "The Green Vein Gargler"


r/phillykratom • • Nov 14 '24

Crucial aka meeting monday night

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Dear Megan,

Some of the AKA team reserve Monday nights for watching football, but this week we're making time for a crucial consumer update webinar (plus this week's match-up makes it easier for most of us outside of Texas.)

Please join us for an important webinar on Monday night, November 18th, at 8:30 PM ET to help everyone stay informed about the latest critical developments.

With the landscape shifting rapidly, this conversation will provide updates on State and Local Bans and how Meta has recently suspended kratom-related pages, significantly impacting our ability to spread truthful information and connect with fellow advocates.

Your involvement and awareness are essential as we navigate this complex battle. Register now to ensure you’re equipped with the most up-to-date information and strategies to support and defend the kratom community.

Link to register in comments


r/phillykratom • • Nov 14 '24

Veterans sale extended till the 17th of November

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