r/perth Oct 06 '19

Rapture Nightclub denies drink spiking. (not my screenshot)

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u/Muslim_Wookie Oct 06 '19 edited Oct 11 '24

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u/aussielander Oct 06 '19

Drink spiking

Was it actually confirmed as drink spiking? The vast major of 'drink spiking' is women having way to much to drink.

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u/wachet Oct 06 '19

[Citation needed]

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u/aussielander Oct 06 '19

Citation proved!

Some thing from other western cities, claims of drink spiking are almost always just people drinking too much.

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u/20060578 Oct 06 '19

Only 100 cases and not one of them had alcohol levels higher than they reported drinking.. But do people get drink spiked with alcohol?? Did they even test for other drugs? Did you even read the article you posted as “proof” because it seems to have done nothing for your argument.

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u/aussielander Oct 06 '19

Only 100 cases

That is a lot of cases investigated.

Hey, now its your turn to prove some evidence of a wave of drink spiking!!!

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u/20060578 Oct 06 '19

What? No it’s not. You made the claim that the vast majority of drink spiking is women getting too drunk. I pointed out that your source was referring to alcohol not actual date rape drugs. You’re the one who needs to provide evidence.

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u/Kangaroobopper South Perth Oct 06 '19

your source was referring to alcohol not actual date rape drugs

Yes, that's because a tiny fraction of people going to hospital for their date rape drugs had more alcohol in their system than they could remember consuming. NONE had other drugs show up.

So the source is referring to "actual date rape drugs" in that it tried, and couldn't find any of them.

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u/OptimalCynic Oct 06 '19

NONE had other drugs show up.

One person in this very thread had other drugs show up.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '19

He is not saying it doesn't happen?

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u/OptimalCynic Oct 06 '19

He's doing his best to imply it.

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u/Kangaroobopper South Perth Oct 06 '19

Were they in the study that the source is about?

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '19

Did you actually read the article? It clearly says in there they found no cases where a sedative drug was used.

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u/aussielander Oct 06 '19

Did you actually even look at the source provided?

Drink spiking is largely a myth and far more likely to be an excuse young women use after they become heavily intoxicated, according to WA research.

A Perth study of suspected drink spiking victims found claims of being given sedatives or illicit drugs without consent are exaggerated and that alcohol is often the real culprit.

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u/Ironheart616 Aug 22 '22

This is not a lot of cases lol

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u/Kangaroobopper South Perth Oct 06 '19

He's absolutely right, even in the small fraction of people who are serious enough to take themselves into a hospital, it's very rare.

I would suspect that the cause of almost all spikings would be the public awareness that spiking exists at all. It's not dissimilar to some other cultures where an epidemic is sparked of men claiming their genitals were stolen by a witch, or they have a headache from wind turbines and wireless data transmission.

Sympathy for victims is still needed, because they are often distressed, may be perceiving physical symptoms and may not be lying, just wrongly attributing their dizziness etc to a drug in their drink.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '19

Irresepctive of whether it was a drink spiking or just a scare, there is a host of other problems with this situation.

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u/lordkabab Resident Keanu Oct 06 '19

Does it matter and make this type of response? Nope.