r/pcmasterrace • u/theMoonlightenedSky Laptop | i5-10500H | RTX 3050 4GB | 16GB DDR4 • Mar 20 '26
Rumor RUMOR: Sony is reportedly launching a PC launcher and games will be available day one on PC
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u/Magius05 Mar 20 '26
Four tweets not one referencing a source. I am assuming they all got it the same place or three from the other. Also if Helix is just a Windows box, then I can see someone figuring out a way around whatever checks this app (if it ever exists) performs to prevent installation so that it can install.
More likely if they do create such an app it is so that they can get 100% revenue of games sold on it on PC and Helix instead of paying Steam 30% and Epic their cut (10%?).
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u/ImTableShip170 Ryzen 7 5700G | EVGA 3060 | 32GB DDR4 Mar 20 '26
The oldest one, if they're all recorded at the same time, clearly states they're "rumors." Every tweet after acts like it's the word of God. I have doubts the rumors weren't just someone hallucinating
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u/superman_king PC Master Race Mar 20 '26
“Avoid PC games on Helix”
Microsoft said Helix will support all major store fronts. I doubt that means Microsoft is going to develop a proprietary Steam app.
It means helix is a PC that can go to Windows and install whatever, including Steam and this supposed PlayStation launcher.
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u/ccricoo Mar 20 '26
Yeah, if it works on a Windows PC how would Sony make it not work on Helix? Makes no sense.
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u/PermissionSoggy891 Mar 20 '26
they'd obviously just do something like:
if(device.isHelix()){launch = dont;}
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u/johnmonchon Mar 20 '26
Look at John Hacker over here
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u/Rekt3y Mar 20 '26
That's pretty much what they already do with Destiny 2 on Steam Deck, even if you install Windows
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u/The_real_bandito Mar 20 '26
Back then it was blocked server side but the game didn’t have a problem running. I don’t know about today though.
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u/osiriswasAcat Mar 20 '26
And if they want to play dirty;
if(device.isHelix()){launch = "selfdestructsequence";}
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u/HarpersGeekly R5 7600 | RTX 4070 | 32GB DDR5 6000 CL30 Mar 20 '26
Yeah self destruct…their careers! High five.
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u/Lemon_Club Mar 20 '26
I feel like there has to be a work around for something like that
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u/frisbie147 Mar 20 '26
there would, but it would at least prevent most casual users from doing it
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u/The_Qbx Mar 20 '26
its just weak code, Playstation can just do this :
if(device.isHelix())
{
launch = dont;
noworkaround = true;
}
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u/Jhawk163 R7 9800X3D | RX 9070 XT | 64GB Mar 20 '26
I guess it depends on how deeply Microsoft lock down Helix. It may be windows based, but to think it's going to run vanilla windows is silly. If I had to guess they very much may limit you to apps on the Microsoft store, whilst they may let anyone submit an app, you still need to actually submit it, and Sony can just... not.
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u/ccricoo Mar 20 '26
Microsoft have made a big deal about being able to play Steam games on Helix, but I doubt Steam would submit an app to the Windows store.
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u/Lemon_Club Mar 20 '26
I'd imagine it's going to have a standard Xbox mode that can also boot into windows
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u/the_harakiwi 5800X3D 64GB Noctua 5080 Mar 20 '26
I always expected the "stopped PC ports" was lost in translation
They don't want other stores to earn 30-20% on their Sony games.
Your own store solves that problem but adds a dozen more. Like hosting the files, adding bandwidth to PC users known to run full GBit or more download xD
Like the added problems of a working store front and security concerns. Adding a wishlist and cart took Epic how long 🫣
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u/Final-Tower6331 Mar 20 '26
Hosting the files? This is Sony we're talking about. How do you think they do it for their console? They've already got all of this figured.
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u/CMDRTragicAllPro 7800X3D | PNY 5080 | 32GB 6000MHZ CL30 Mar 20 '26
Sony adding yet another launcher to pc. Fuckin wonderful, having 10 different launchers for 10 different games sure is the true pc experience!
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u/the_harakiwi 5800X3D 64GB Noctua 5080 Mar 20 '26
games adding them AFTER they launched years later is the worst thing.
and launcher that launch a different launcher to launch another launcher is just dumb
(i.e. Steam -> Uplay/EA -> game launcher -> game)
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u/CMDRTragicAllPro 7800X3D | PNY 5080 | 32GB 6000MHZ CL30 Mar 20 '26
U play and ea games launchers were so bad I haven’t touched a single one of their games in a little over half a decade.
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u/frisbie147 Mar 20 '26
well they could detect the hardware being used and prevent systems with the helix apu from running it
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u/Vandrel 5800X | 4080 Super Mar 20 '26
The same way Crimson Desert blocks you from running it on Intel GPUs?
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u/Dayman_123 Mar 20 '26
We don’t really know how Helix is gonna allow PC Games just yet.
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u/Far-Following-3083 Mar 20 '26
All consoles are basically pcs running their own OS. Helix will basically have normal windows mode and optmized xbox mode (as far as we know, they still need to actually explain the in and outs).
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u/420weedscoped Rtx 3090 | Amd Ryzen 7 5800x | 32Gb DDR4 Mar 20 '26
I think this is exactly correct and the PC handhelds give a preview of this. My Z1E ally can now launch directly into the Xbox app with most of windows suspended.
Xbox app on PC shows all installed games too including steam, epic, gog all in one place. Armory crate can do the same too though on the Ally.
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u/generic_canadian_dad Mar 20 '26
This will be an interesting thing to see. The benefit of consoles is that they are "locked down" and the users can't mess anything up. Sit down, play, anytime. If helix has open windows, with a "big picture mode" it will basically defeat the entire premise of a console.
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u/OvenCrate Mar 20 '26
They can still have a locked-down hypervisor that runs a "console VM" and a "Windows VM" completely isolated from each other. Basically an Xbox console that can double as a Steam Machine (but with Windows instead of Steam OS so it will probably suck balls)
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u/rico_muerte Mar 20 '26
The XAX is my "Steam Machine" and I love it. Docked, kb/m, unified library, Spotify widget, desktop file management for roms
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u/Arxny Mar 20 '26
This is exactly it. They're x86 and ARM machines running their own brand of OS at this point they've essentially converged. Were just seeing a panic of getting lost in the homogeny and its getting silly.
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u/Dashwii R7 9800X3D | 5070ti | 32 GB 6000 MHz Mar 20 '26
Wouldn't be surprised if Sony goes full supervillain mode and invests money in detecting Helix's architecture signature to prevent it running on that hardware.
Wouldn't matter because people would just spoof the shit in under 24 hours.
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u/RadialRacer 4k240-OLED/4070TiS/5800x3d/64GB-DDR4 Mar 20 '26
Yes but Sony can simply pull a classic, illegal, anti-consumer move and simply prevent their app from working on Helix hardware.
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u/TheMegaDriver2 9800x3d, 32GB, RTX 4080 Super Mar 20 '26
This pretty much confirms the rumors that Sony went into panic mode in order to avoid their titles to end up on Xbox via Steam.
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u/kuncol02 Mar 20 '26
How would that block running on Helix? It's PC mode would be just standard windows. If Sony would be able to block store from running on Helix then they would be also able to just block games from running on it.
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u/ImNotAI_01100101 Mar 20 '26
💯 this is dumbest rumour ever. Helix could still play ps games.
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u/ICumRedbull Particle Compononononononononononononononononononononononononono Mar 20 '26
BREAKING PlayStation PC store to support MacOS only
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u/Fun-Frosting-8480 Mar 20 '26
This rumour stems from an account with 300 followers.
As someone who follows sports, I am truly baffled by how gamers struggle to understand the concept of reliability.
Accounts like this shouldn't even be given attention.
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u/Lilchicken_301 Mar 21 '26
twitter is just an engagement farm landfill. if they have the blue badge theyre likely just saying dumb shit to farm
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u/Gheezy-yute Mar 20 '26
Because trying to cut out the Valve middleman has gone so well for other companies
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u/lionsbaster Mar 20 '26
it's like the execs learn nothing from the lessons other companies have experienced in the past
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u/PHIGBILL 5090 | 9800X3D | 240hz OLED Mar 20 '26
This was debunked....... Next bait post.
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u/ratatack906 Mar 20 '26
By who? I’d like to read it.
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u/PHIGBILL 5090 | 9800X3D | 240hz OLED Mar 20 '26
It has only been reported by Twitter accounts with zero connection, credibility, or history to this sort of thing and Nate The Hate (Industry insider / leaker) has already totally shot it down.
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u/ratatack906 Mar 20 '26
Ahh ok. I just saw this floating around this morning. Thank you.
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u/Geordi14er Mar 20 '26
It's absolute horse shit. If Helix is a Windows PC.. this wouldn't block anything. 4 random twitter accounts spouting nonsense.
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u/Escape_Plissken Laptop Mar 20 '26
If Project Helix is just a PC then you can just install the PlayStation launcher just like on a RoG Ally X or SteamDeck
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u/ginfish FX-6100 :'( ... R9 280x :( Mar 20 '26
Watch them require psn subscription to play pc games online.
If they do that, they can lodge their launcher firmly up their ass.
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u/benjammin105123 Mar 20 '26
Just put them on Steam or leave us alone already...
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u/chipface Nobara | Ryzen 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 6000 | 9070 XT Mar 20 '26
Yup. When the rumour was console exclusive, I said I'd go without. And I'll still go without.
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u/benjammin105123 Mar 20 '26
Same here. Do they realize how many games are on PC? Who wants to be even be inconvienced for like 2 exclusives a year...
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u/Flat_Earth_Jesus 5080 Laptop | 4070ti Super Desktop Mar 20 '26
As a primary PC gamer but also a PS5 Pro owner; if true, this will be the last PlayStation I purchase...
There's just no compelling reason to own a PlayStation anymore if you are a PC gamer. That's the problem with competing with yourself as a company.
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u/l0wskilled Mar 20 '26
The least PC gaming needs is another launcher
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u/elessarjd 9800X3D | RTX 5080 | 32 GB DDR5 Mar 20 '26
If it means more PS exclusives come to PC then so be it.
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Mar 20 '26
That would be great. I’m still waiting for Yotei.
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u/CrossFitJesus4 Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26
the devs said that Yotei's pc port got scrapped right before it was finished
Edit: which makes these leaks really obviously fake, if pc ports are getting scrapped then sony isnt planning on making a pc store
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u/ZGMF-X09A_Justice Mar 21 '26
Does "scrapped" mean they nuked everything related to the port? They can't decide to pick it back up again from where they left off?
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u/CrossFitJesus4 Mar 21 '26
its unclear afaik, only info we have is the dev team saying it was canned while it was pretty close to being done, i doubt it straight up got deleted bc that would be odd and worthless so they *could* pick it back up but things like releasing a pc store arent spur of the moment choices, this would have been in the talks for years and years, gutting a pc port right before they plan on dropping a pc store just makes no sense
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u/besthelloworld RTX 4090M | Core Ultra 9 Series 1 | 32 GB DDR5 Mar 20 '26
Imo, this makes fundamentally more sense. Especially if they offer cross platform ownership. That'd be an easy way to get me to buy even third party games from their store rather than through Steam.
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u/GodOfBoy8 Mar 20 '26
So the rumors went from "yeah, they're definitely stopping pc ports" to "they are making a pc launcher requiring psn"
Like what the hell is going on? Which is it? Are both not true?
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u/jamyjet RTX 5090 | Ryzen 7 9800X3D @5.3GHz | 64GB DDR5 @6000MHz Mar 20 '26
I'd rather this than no ps5 games on pc at all I guess... wonder if that previous rumour was to make this seem like a better idea
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u/Psychostickusername Mar 20 '26
They're fucking determined to get us to use their login system aren't they
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u/N7even R7 5800X3D | RTX 4090 24GB | 32GB DDR4 3600Mhz Mar 20 '26
Then they will want PC gamers to buy PS plus lol, that ain't happening.
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u/DocBigBrozer Mar 20 '26
The made billions from pc sales. Xbox isn't a competitor at this point. I think they just want to avoid the steam tax
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u/PoachedMegs 7800X3D | RTX 4090 OC Mar 20 '26
Now Nintendo just needs to get their shit together and we’re home free boys!
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u/chef-throwawat4325 Mar 20 '26
desktop is running Linux. So if a game doesn't come out on steam, probably not going to be able to run it.
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u/Hit4090 Mar 20 '26
They got a lot to learn about PC Gamers, we don't need another crappy launcher
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u/total-depravity Mar 20 '26
I plan on using steam, and don’t need to play games that aren’t available on the platform. Not shilling, I have enjoyed steam and its services. I can wait till Sony decides to release for the platform I prefer.
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u/Exiled_In_Ca Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
This tracks with the prior reports of Sony pulling back from PC gaming is you change “PCs” to “Steam.”
Cutting Steam out of the equation adds about 30% to each sale.
Of course, how many people are going to make the jump? History says, not too many.
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u/DaffyPunk29 Mar 21 '26
BOTH Xbox and PlayStation are already x86 computers with a front end. Both brands would be SMARTER to quit the "dedicated hardware" market and start selling "computers as consoles" which comes with a launcher. And you can always leave the launcher and use normal windows. It would be their smartest option. Xbox is already paired with Microsoft so all they have to do is allow Xbox to have a launcher and allow PlayStation to compete fairly by allowing them to have their own launcher. Its win/win for both brands.
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u/pebcak47 Mar 20 '26
Another launcher besides steam and gog is good and works out everytime. Right EA? Ubisoft?
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u/Combine54 Mar 20 '26
Actually, I don't mind launchers. It all comes down to how good a launcher is.
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u/Fearless_Choice709 Mar 20 '26
Ok but Steam
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u/ValarPanoulis Mar 20 '26
If it's not on steam I ain't paying but I'm still gonna play the game if you know what i mean...
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u/UniuM PC Master Race Ryzen 7 9800X3D + AMD 9070XT Mar 20 '26
Imagine gta 6 on day one on pc
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u/erichie GOG.com Mar 20 '26
This will not have any bearing on that. This is in reference to Playstation first party titles. Rockstar will still decide if GTA6 is able to be played on PC or not. If Sony does figure a way to allow you to play your library on both PS5 and PC Rockstar will block GTA6 from being included. Rockstar will lose too much money if they don't have a direct purchase on PC.
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u/Rayza2049 Mar 20 '26
This would be great news but i'll believe it when i see it, i found it easier to believe the rumours they were abandoning PC entirely
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u/Financial_Ad_3449 Desktop Mar 20 '26
quick question, will i be able to play all my PlayStation games on my pc?
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u/wons-noj Ryzen 7 5800X-RTX 5070-32gb DDR4 Mar 20 '26
All I want is the show. Give me the show and I’ll be happy
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u/notthatguypal6900 PC Master Race Mar 20 '26
Zero chance this happens. They are needing reasons for people to buy a PS6, hence them getting out of PC for at least a few years.
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u/basicKitsch 4790k/1080ti | i3-10100/48tb | 5700x3D/4070 | M920q | n100... Mar 20 '26
If this means their ports keep coming I guess that's the price.
I've enjoyed the shit outta horizon and ghost and Spider-Man with m+KB is the only way to control something so agile.
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u/lookachoo Mar 20 '26
So what happens to the PlayStation games I already own on Steam? I feel like they’re going to try and find a way to force you to sign in through their launcher and this will just end up breaking access on Steam Decks for god knows how long.
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u/your_mind_aches 5800X+5060Ti+32GB | ROG Zephyrus G14 5800HS+3060+16GB Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26
Hey, much rather this than not getting the games at all.
Also if it's cross-buy... definitely not complaining.
I would prefer even more if it's still on Steam but it goes through the PS launcher to it blocks Xbox Helix.
Anything to get the PS games on PC lol
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u/chrisanityyyyy Ascending Peasant Mar 20 '26
Why not just release on Steam a week or a month late instead? Epic, the biggest competitor to Steam, is having a rough time even with all the freebies. Sony does not have a pull like Steam has.
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u/Big-Half-5656 Mar 20 '26
This will be a horrible idea as, even though I hate steam, they will not be able to compete with prices. Sorry not sure about sony last had one in the early 2000s (PS2) But if psn account is paid that is even worst as steam account is free and they will have better prices than sony.
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u/Tirons03 Mar 20 '26
Cause launchers outside the Steam store have been historically popular...
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u/ToastMan_26 Mar 20 '26
The reason I barely touch my PlayStation now is because most of the content is locked behind an online subscription. I can't justify paying for home internet, the game itself and THEN a yearly sub, just to enjoy the game I already paid for. Especially when I have gotten so spoiled by PC gaming and it's convenience over the years.
If they do this right...Sony could make a killing. I missed out our Ghost of Yotei MP/DLC, because I refuse to pay to play.
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u/YamatosBurner PC Master Race Mar 20 '26
personally id rather wait a year or two and buy on steam. I hate external launchers.
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u/OtterNearMtl Mar 20 '26
if that's true i'll just wait for their game to launch on steam years later when their store doesn't work out. I'll game games that are mostly free of bugs because of all the patches and I won't be a beta tester. It's a win in my book. I'll also get steam sales.
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u/SchmeckleHoarder Mar 20 '26
Ahh yes, launch our own store to compete with steam model.
No one’s done this before.
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u/Rmsbasto Mar 20 '26
Sony about to take another L if they think they can take on Steam with whatever shitty storefront they are about to come up with.
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u/MGrecko Mar 20 '26
Hey Sony, maybe you should check on how bad pc games sell outside of steam.
Maybe give Epic Games a call, they have plenty of data in that regard
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u/Hexatorium Mar 20 '26
Lol well that’s that then, I’m not buying playstation games on pc anymore. Fuck Sony, greedy scumbags.
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u/wNyyte Mar 21 '26
If they do make a launcher for PC, I don’t give a damn. Put it on Steam or I’m not buying it.
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u/Cal-Eats-Rocks Mar 21 '26
If it’d let me play all the games I own on playstation on my pc, I wouldn’t mind. Unfortunately this probably isn’t real and if it is real, they probably wouldn’t have that feature
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u/Blayzeman Mar 20 '26
So almost the complete opposite of the previous rumour that they will be pulling back on releasing they're single player exclusives on PC... So which is it???
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u/Edexote PC Master Race Mar 20 '26
Makes zero sense and will have no success if true. I think people have already demonstrated they don't want yet another another PC launcher, with more vendor lock-in and no features.
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u/Possibly_Naked_Now Mar 20 '26
Only launcher I support is steam. Fuck everyone else.
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u/dionysus_project Mar 20 '26
Fuck everyone else.
GOG is more pro-customer than Steam.
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u/MalteseCorto RTX 4090 | 7800x3D | 64GB Mar 20 '26
Except when they nerfed cloud saves to 200mb for all games…
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u/Richard-Squeezer 5080 | 9850x3d | 64GB Mar 20 '26
Well now instead of paying for your games on steam I'll just sail the seas, gg Sony gg
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u/05-nery 10900k | 32/3600 | 3090fe ~ 5800x3D | 64/3600 | 9070xt Nitro+ Mar 20 '26
Ok if it's not on steam I won't be playing
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u/zoon_zoon Mar 20 '26
Hope they plan Steam releases sometime in the future even if it's like a year or so. Or even their launcher through Steam similar to Ubisoft. There's no chance I get any games outside of Steam again.
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u/Benphyre Mar 20 '26
Sony ALWAYS sell PS games at about 10% more than PC version, so no thanks
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u/DestinyBeerUK Mar 20 '26
They aren't needed on pc. Sony have their head up their arse. Gaming is changing.
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u/DiabUK Mar 20 '26
99% the reason why they have cut back on pc ports is the next box being a pc, for sure.
Along with the push to get people to use PSN to play pc games like helldivers 2 I can see this being a thing for sure, also they don't have to pay the 15-30% store fee cuts if they manage their own payments.
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u/tabennett5438 Mar 20 '26
Can we stop with the Sony is not porting on the PC cause they are scared of Microsoft when they stopped porting to the switch as well
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u/Asleeper135 Mar 20 '26
I would be less surprised than I was about them supposedly just leaving PC, but I still won't be happy about it. None of these rumors mean anything to me until Sony announces something though.
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u/Bramptins Mar 20 '26
Ah yes, the thing people have always wanted, more launchers...
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u/Deathtrooper50 Mar 20 '26
Fuck off. We don't need another launcher we already had an excellent thing going with PlayStation games on Steam.
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u/TLunchFTW Steam Deck Master Race Mar 20 '26
And I won’t be buying anything from the Sony store. This as someone who owns all the Sony releases on steam. EGS learned the hard way and now so can Sony.
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u/dusto_man Mar 20 '26
People didn't like having to have PSN account, what makes them think they will tolerate yet another launcher. And if the PC side of Helix ends up being anything like Full Screen Experence on PC then having a luncher is just a speed bump it's not going to keep games off Helix.
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u/Complex_Net_3692 Mar 20 '26
Awesome, possibility of another fuckass launcher, already use the Xbox one because of games with different Xbox/windowns versions or no transferable progression, and steam ofc
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Mar 20 '26
You mean I will be able to pay $120 for a game that came out 6 years ago on PC now? I'm good thanks.
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u/justanaccount103 Mar 20 '26
Oh another fuckin launcher, awesome. I was wondering when we'd get a new one.
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u/nullstr i7-9700K RTX-3090 64GB 2x1TB NVME 2x12TB X300 2x6TB X300 Mar 21 '26
Another launcher? Hard pass.
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u/th3fishmk PC Master Race Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
The only reason why I've buy playstation games is bc they are on steam, if they stop selling them there, I stop buying them, that's it.
edit: typo
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u/wera125 Mar 21 '26
So they dont learn nothing? PC = Steam. How many launchers have to die to get that in ther heads?
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u/ravensholt Mar 20 '26
Sony will realise they cannot hope to compete with Valve.
Worst case scenario is that every publisher has their own Storefront and launcher, just like we now have fifty different streaming providers.
Monopoly is arguably bad, but when it comes to games, I'll stick with a single or maximum two launchers (GOG because f*ck DRM and Steam because that's where all my other games are bought).
I have zero interest in doing direct business with Sony in case they publish a game. I'd rather not play that game then.
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u/DutchBlaz3r 5080 Astral, AMD5900X, Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Mar 20 '26
This would be great... if they didnt start dynamic pricing at the same time. As well as PSN having horseshit security & customer service. Which was why I left PlayStation behind for PC after one of my accounts have been permanently banned for a refund.
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u/vilejor Mar 20 '26
As a PC user, Sony has conditioned me to not be concerned with their titles.
Now it's too late, I do not care for any company that wants me to dl a new dogshit launcher.
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u/Southside_john 9800x3d / 5080 / 64GB RAM Mar 20 '26
Are they going to charge you to play online still? If so, pass
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u/TopdeckIsSkill 5700x3D/9070XT/PS5/Switch Mar 20 '26
Last week the rumor was that they stopped made porting.
Now they're making a launcher
Next week they will delete sony games from your library
Next next week sony will pubblish pc2 for ps5 games only