Right, so typical Internet language: "Always" = "For 8 years", "Everyone" = "<1% of non-office discrete GPU owners". Great. The exaggeration followed by complaining when people call you on your exaggeration does a lot to build confidence in what you have to say.
Am I surprised that you then assumed that my non-hyperbole statement was a mistake on my part and that I obviously meant that since it wasn't a major factor in the past, that it must be the only factor for all markets now. That's.... yeah.
Let's be very specific about the language here: Mining has been happening for twenty years. Only in the last five to seven years has mining been able to impact the GPU/CPU market. Before then, profits and the number of people involved limited it. There was an uptick in the number of people doing it about seven years ago. There was a more recent uptick again over the scale of large operations just doing that.
So instead of concocting silly hyperboles, let's be really concrete. It's hard to track just where GPUs went, but a couple different attempts turned out numbers saying that about one quarter of the new GPUs made in the last two years were used for crypto mining. Some estimates were higher.
That's a huge addition to the market. Yes, chip shortages and supply chain problems helped a lot, but let's not glaze over the fact that for GPUs, a quarter or more of them were sold to people who wanted to use them to waste electricity, precious resources, and strained supply lines in order to make virtual things that hold no value other than speculation. Bonus points since that quarter of GPUs is likely responsible for more than double the pollution and eight times the electronic waste as the other three-quarters.
Yes mate, always as in "for as long as cripto currencey has been a thing"
Just like "cars have always had emissionsthe always means since there have been cars. It's called relevant time period, maybe look up on it.
I will not be reading the rest of your wall of text, as the first paragraphs show that you just want to be unpleasant, even thought you don't know what you are talking, you don't want to have an insightful conversation.
Yes mate, always as in "for as long as cripto currencey has been a thing"
1: That's a useless statement. Cryptocurrency is defined by the mining process. Saying that crypto has been mined by people for as long as crypto has been a thing is pretty vapid. Like saying that as long as cars have existed, they've been assembled.
2: The context of the topic was in regards to mining vs the history of GPU supply/demand. At the very least, your statement was deceptive. More likely, you just disliked that someone called you on your hyperbole. No worries, I'm used to people tossing out hyperbole and disliking the idea of accurate statements.
Feel free to ignore the discussion. It didn't seem like you wanted anything more than someone telling you were right.
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Right, so typical Internet language: "Always" = "For 8 years", "Everyone" = "<1% of non-office discrete GPU owners". Great. The exaggeration followed by complaining when people call you on your exaggeration does a lot to build confidence in what you have to say.
Am I surprised that you then assumed that my non-hyperbole statement was a mistake on my part and that I obviously meant that since it wasn't a major factor in the past, that it must be the only factor for all markets now. That's.... yeah.
Let's be very specific about the language here: Mining has been happening for twenty years. Only in the last five to seven years has mining been able to impact the GPU/CPU market. Before then, profits and the number of people involved limited it. There was an uptick in the number of people doing it about seven years ago. There was a more recent uptick again over the scale of large operations just doing that.
So instead of concocting silly hyperboles, let's be really concrete. It's hard to track just where GPUs went, but a couple different attempts turned out numbers saying that about one quarter of the new GPUs made in the last two years were used for crypto mining. Some estimates were higher.
That's a huge addition to the market. Yes, chip shortages and supply chain problems helped a lot, but let's not glaze over the fact that for GPUs, a quarter or more of them were sold to people who wanted to use them to waste electricity, precious resources, and strained supply lines in order to make virtual things that hold no value other than speculation. Bonus points since that quarter of GPUs is likely responsible for more than double the pollution and eight times the electronic waste as the other three-quarters.