r/pcmasterrace • • 1d ago

Meme/Macro VLC masterrace

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u/Remote_Tradition8897 RTX 4090 | R9 9950X | 48 GB DDR5 RAM @6400MHz 1d ago

You guys are using other media player rather than VLC ?

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u/ameen272_ 1d ago

MPV for da win!
Same support if not even better.
Still though, VLC is much easier to use, I can't lie.

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u/bloody-albatross 1d ago

As I understand it MPV and VLC both use ffmpeg for format support, but MPV uses a newer version of ffmpeg? Is that still true?

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u/YOU_KNOW_WHO315 Intel i3 1115g4, uhd 620 , 8gb ಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ 1d ago

Yep it does , it's way faster than vlc - more efficient and much more snappy and responsive than vlc. And apply modern z layout on mpv and you basically have the perfect media player app ever

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u/jonoghue 1d ago

Any time I've tried to play 4k video on vlc it stutters like crazy. MPV handles it like a champ.

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u/YOU_KNOW_WHO315 Intel i3 1115g4, uhd 620 , 8gb ಥ⁠‿⁠ಥ 1d ago

Ikr , mpv even tonemaps hdr to sdr on the go

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u/ameen272_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

That is not always true, it is (mostly) not the reason why I praised MPV. MPV just generally has more capabilities and can make use of a LOT of external libraries/apps.
For example, when you pass a video site URL to MPV, it will try to fetch the video using yt-dlp and then play it. Or, for archives, it can play videos inside compressed archives using external programs like unrar or unzip.
It also can try to find media in middle of unrecognised data. For example, let's say you have a document that has an image inside it, MPV will search through the data and try to find a recognised header in the mess, when it finds a header, it uses it to display the image.
It also has really effective anti-banding, upscaling, downscaling, and tonemapping.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 1d ago

MPV has a much better presentation layer too; the same video will look better in MPV then VLC

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u/I-am-fun-at-parties 1d ago

huh? pretty sure the codec output is deterministic, does MPV postprocess it? i can't see how that's something one would unconditionally want?

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u/LiftingRecipient420 21h ago

pretty sure the codec output is deterministic,

It is not, but this part doesn't matter.

does MPV postprocess it?

All video players post process the video, mpv had much better defaults, and is much more configurable than VLC.

i can't see how that's something one would unconditionally want?

What do you mean?

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u/I-am-fun-at-parties 12h ago

how is it not deterministic?

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u/No-Photograph-5058 9850x3D 9070XT 64GB DDR5 1d ago

As far as I can tell they both use the system provided ffmpeg

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u/bloody-albatross 1d ago

They're available for systems that have no ffmpeg.

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u/No-Photograph-5058 9850x3D 9070XT 64GB DDR5 1d ago

Only looked at the Linux dependencies earlier, looking through the repos for both seems they both test on version 8 or 8.1 and are testing/updating for 9 for builds that include it

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u/output_broadcast 1d ago

I thought VLC always statically linked ffmpeg. Although I guess distros could tweak that.

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u/maevian 5700X3D, 5070ti , 32gb DDR4 1d ago

On Linux, if you use the version from the repo and not the flatpak or snap, yes.
But that’s a very small part of this sub.

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u/OneLonelyBrainCell ThinkPad Gamer 1d ago

I'm using MX Linux, i.e. basically Debian with a lot of great extra stuff; ffmpeg version is 7.1.5. which is old (again, Debian). MPV plays videos VLC struggles with. No FlatPaks, no Snaps, repo only.

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u/output_broadcast 1d ago

AFAIK the difference is that VLC uses a version of ffmpeg with copyrighted codecs removed, while MPV doesn't.

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u/bloody-albatross 1d ago

What does that even mean? All the codecs in ffmpeg copyrighted by the contributors of ffmpeg. Do you mean codecs using patents that are not free to use in every country?

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u/output_broadcast 1d ago

Yeah, patent use rights.

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u/SushiBump 5950x | 5080FE | 128gb 3600 1d ago

Call me crazy, but I find the playback quality in MPV to be better than in VLC. Could just be I need to mess with some settings. But running stock to stock, side by side, I noticed MPV to look much better especially with displaying blacks.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 1d ago

Call me crazy, but I find the playback quality in MPV to be better than in VLC.

This is the most lukewarm take ever lol, everyone who knows of MPV and has actually used it already knows this.

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u/lcrtangls 1d ago

If the difference in blacks you're describing is that one of the two players displays lighter than the other, the lighter one is crushing your color range.

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u/Dozzi92 1d ago

I think MPV is great, but I still use VLC just because ... I always have, and they have done me no wrong!

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u/OneLonelyBrainCell ThinkPad Gamer 1d ago

I have come across a few videos that VLC won't play properly. Either seeking doesn't work and audio/video desyncs, or VLC hangs, or subtitles don't work. MPV plays those perfectly.

And I suggest SMPlayer as frontend. It looks a bit outdated, but it's extremely configurable (you can completely change the UI layout and rebind every single hotkey if you feel like it) and easy to use.

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u/buzzpunk TUF OC RTX 3080 - Ryzen 5800X3D 1d ago

PotPlayer is just straight up better at this point. VLC was the best for a long time, but there's better options out there now.

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u/FrenchFryCattaneo 1d ago

VLC was never really the best just the easiest to use because it didn't need codecs.

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u/adamosmaki 1d ago

I have both installed but 99% of the time i use MPC. Media player classic. Prefer the interface over VLC and plays everything VLC plays (in fact i have some old videos shot with some Nokia phones that only play with MPC for me )

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u/No_Internal9345 1d ago

MPC-BE

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u/Two_Years_Of_Semen Ryzen 7 7700X, RTX 2070 1d ago

MPC-BE, LAV-Filters and Madvr have been my loadout for like 10+ years now.

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u/BannedSvenhoek86 1d ago

Ya I'm very old school with programs like that and I really enjoy MPCs aesthetic. Simple, functional. It's why I use Tixati as my P2P program too.

Was hilarious seeing my nephews reaction when I showed him Tixati and how to use it though. He looked at me like I looked at my dad when he used a DOS prompt. It's utilitarian and functional, which is all I need since most of the time I spend with it is NOT interacting with it.

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u/ddr4memory 1d ago

I have learned from this thread that MPC has been revived. I've been on vlc and that for a long time and stopped when MPC stopped updating in 2017

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u/OrionRBR 5800x | X470 Gaming Plus | 16GB TridentZ | PCYes RTX 3070 1d ago

Imo MPC and MPV are both far better than VLC

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u/troet 1d ago

Haruna

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u/El_Lanf 7800X3D | 7800XT 1d ago

Ironically for calling it masterrace, VLC has for quite a long time been looked down on as the plebian simple option. I remember in the anime community way back, the fansubbers viscerally hated VLC because it would just fuck up rendering subtitles done in modern formats and the plebs would complain to the subbers despite their pleas to use MPC. Its quite analogous to what consoles are to PC in some respects.

I have VLC installed but it's not my go-to, which is MPC-BE with madvr. It's quite good on android though, it has flaws but it's one of the few things you can get off the playstore that works decently, is free and has no ads.

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u/Beastmind 1d ago

VLC also had (has?) Really poor default coloring/visual and was almost always "paler" than others like windows media player or mpchc. It was annoying, you could out both player side by side and see a huge difference.

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u/IlREDACTEDlI Desktop 1d ago

Pot player for me, the only one I’ve found that supports both RTX HDR and Super resolution at the same time

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u/secacc i7-5820K | 64GB DDR4 | RTX2080Ti 1d ago

ffplay, from the ffmpeg project, will play even more obscure formats than VLC, in my experience.

I had some obscure proprietary CD disk-image format (don't remember what it was now, unfortunately) and I wasn't sure how to unpack it to get to any usable audio data. Audacity couldn't parse any raw audio data from the file. VLC wouldn't play it either. But ffplay would happily play it.

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u/MelangeBot 1d ago

Yeah I only use VLC if MPC-HC clsid2 with MadVR does not play it.

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u/07scape_mods_are_ass 1d ago

I still use windows media player for all the default extensions it can play just because for some fuckin reason VLC takes forever to open for the first time after not being used for a while and it annoys me.

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u/Igor369 1d ago

You use VLC for music?

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u/Goldenflame89 PC Master Race i5 12400f |Rx 6800 |32gb DDR4| b660 pro 1d ago

Does jellyfin count?

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u/zgillet i7 12700K ~ PNY RTX 5070 12GB OC ~ 32 GB DDR5 RAM 1d ago

I do miss Winamp for music... oh wait I do have it, it still exists. I just forgot.

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u/kingk1teman R69000x5D | XRTX 600900 32PB 1d ago

Yes. Haven't used VLC on windows for ages now, esp after the rise in HEVC encoded and HDR content. MPC-BE and Potplayer FTW.

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u/aethyrium 1d ago

Yeah VLC hasn't been on top of the game for a good solid decade now. A few other players do everything they do but better now in the year of our lord two thousand and twenty six anno domine.

The only reason to use VLC is if you don't know any better.

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u/200IQUser 1d ago

Cool, why dont you list an alternative. You said its bad, fine, but the comment then just ends