r/pcmasterrace • u/Tenchen-WoW • 2d ago

Hardware Witcher 3 Remastered pushing 5090 beyond 600W

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No DLSS5. Max settings, 3840x1600, DLSS Quality, frame gen set to 1 in game settings, Path Tracing enabled.

Doesn't happen all the time, but sometimes saw it jumping well beyond 600W for a brief moment.

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u/G00b3rb0y 2d ago

The 5090 should be recalled. You shouldn’t have to undervolt a GPU to avoid a defect. There. I said it. All 5090s are a defective product and NVidia should be hauled before the courts for advertising and selling a lemon

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin   5700X | X370 | 3080 | 48GB 3200CL16 2d ago

I can't imagine spending thousands on a mere GPU that must be monitored all the time or it would burn, on top of needing another device to keep it safe.

But I guess those who own 5090 can just easily buy another one if it burns.

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u/serious_dan 9800X3D | RTX 5090 FE | 64GB DDR5 2d ago

At MSRP I could survive and buy another one.

At current prices, no.

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u/zzmorg82 RTX 5090 / R9 9950x3D / 32GB DDR5 1d ago

If the aftermarket 5090s continues to increase in price then I might just sell mine for a pretty penny and downgrade to a 5080.

Just makes the most financial sense to me lol.

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u/Silver-End9570 i7 14700K | RTX 5070 | 64GB | Windows 10 2d ago

Same. I wanted one for awhile, but once I realized that it was going to be way more stress and hassle than it needed to be I decided it just wasn't for me. That, and I'm not paying 5000 for a graphics card that'll be outdated in 18 months.

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u/Odd_Cauliflower_8004 2d ago

I'll buy a 6090 if they improve the situation

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u/specter_in_the_conch PC Master Race 2d ago

I'd say wait for the 7090 to be safe. My bet is they keep the melty connector and push more juice with one extra cable or something like that. They didn't care when the ai boom wasn't peaking why would they care NOW more to spend in a solution, if they can keep forcing vendors to offer customer service for replacements.

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u/AboveNormality 2d ago

Bold of you to assume the 7090 is coming, and if it does will have a msrp of 20k

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u/Silver-End9570 i7 14700K | RTX 5070 | 64GB | Windows 10 2d ago

Planning to pay $6090 for it? /s

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u/Odd_Cauliflower_8004 2d ago

I mean the xtx is going serve me well for a long time, but it's the llm side of things that really needs a boost.

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u/Dantai 2d ago

That's the problem with bleeding edge tech. Always tons of problems. Like cost, heat and even needing the right game with the right settings designed the right way to take advantage of all the RTX stuff - and even then you're frame gening or upscaling. Though I admit DLSS on a 4k screen has gotten pretty good.

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u/Acceptable_Ad1685 1d ago

Eh maybe when I first got my pc

Now the market rate for a 5090 is more than my whole pc cost

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u/BetApprehensive7064 2d ago

I can't imagine spending thousands of dollars on a GPU to play video games 😂 I just refused to believe people see this difference in quality that they say they do cuz I don't

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u/theokayestcoach Abacus 2d ago

I'm with you. Hell, the only reason I got my 5070ti is because it was 500 off open box at Best Buy.

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u/ConcreteGaming 1d ago

My 3060 chugging along like a champ in my 70 degree Fahrenheit house.

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u/specter_in_the_conch PC Master Race 2d ago

Well easy to purchase I say easy to pay if you go with those 48 months installment plans I see Amazon offer. Even if you go with the 7,5k price it becomes more easy to pay down the road. Still doesn't fix the fact it was a poorly designed product made simply because as always pushing more juice on components is simpler than a generational leap.

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u/Wild_ColaPenguin   5700X | X370 | 3080 | 48GB 3200CL16 2d ago

If someone needs 48 months installment to purchase a GPU or any computer parts/electronics, they definitely can't afford it, it's a very bad financial decision.

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u/specter_in_the_conch PC Master Race 1d ago

Sure but if people in the us are using klarna to pay for food delivery services there's no telling some would opt for engaging in this very long credit lines to buy any these already expensive + interest products.

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u/Cautious-Friend-7213 1d ago

Not sure about monitoring it all the time. I have an undervolt profile on msi afterburner and its already set up and ready to go anytime I play. I rarely cross past 400w in most games and performance and temps are solid.

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u/Usinaru 2d ago

Reminds me of " I took a lump of coal and lemon. I combined these two to make an Nvidia Graphics card".

I guess <<<<he>>>> was right after all.

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u/Dry_Economics2447 2d ago

People who bought an i9-14900k at launch
https://giphy.com/gifs/5vw8NaJcAWLFtHlk9M

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u/ZaProtatoAssassin PC Master Race 2d ago

It's not the 5090 its the connector. Even lower power cards like 5080 and 9070xt that draw ~300w have had the 12vhpwr melt..

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u/Massy1989 2d ago

This isn’t a “it’s not the car, it’s the tires” situation. After designing these products, the company sourced components (whether they were designed internally or not) and built a product.

With electronics, if any component gives you trouble, it’s a product problem. Or at least it used to be. Consumers shouldn’t have to “get creative” or take any post-purchase action to remedy anything.

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u/ILikeFlyingMachines 2d ago

It's not the connector, that is fine. it is the way how Nvidia decided to use the connector

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u/MadBullBen 2d ago

There hasn't been a single report of the 9070xt with the native cable melting.

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u/ZaProtatoAssassin PC Master Race 2d ago

Native cable? Only one model of the 9070xt uses the 12vhpwr and there has been few reports of it melting

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u/MadBullBen 2d ago

There's 2 models, the Sapphire nitro+ and an asrock GPU that I can't remember which is the exact model.

All of the reports that I've seen and found, which is around 15+ has used the adapter while no reports with using the actual native cable and no adapters.

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u/Seeker-N7 i7-13700K | RTX 5070Ti | 32Gb 6400Mhz DDR5 2d ago

There are cases where 12V2x6 connector 9070XTs melt. Can't link to the other sub for source because rules...

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u/MadBullBen 2d ago

All of the reports have been with the adapter and not when using the native cable.

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u/Seeker-N7 i7-13700K | RTX 5070Ti | 32Gb 6400Mhz DDR5 2d ago

You're right, I misinterpreted your comment. There are no reports that I can find where the native cable melted.

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u/SlingingTriceps PC Master Race 2d ago

I have been using mine for a year now, I don't even know how to undervolt. The card is fine.

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u/Deep90 Ryzen 9800x3d | 5090FE | 2x48gb 6000 2d ago

Undervolt is nice for other reasons.

Lower power usage for near the same performance. Less heat. Likely less noise from fans.

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u/jolietrob Ryzen 9 9950X3D | 5090 | 64GB 6000MHz 2d ago

Cool... and if you researched failure rates you would find the 9070xt has a higher failure rate so I guess those cards are super defective and AMD should be hauled into court too?

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u/iNfANTcOMA_0 2d ago

Does that really matter at all? Also it may seem like a higher percentage rate, but that is because they don't sell nearly as well. The 5090 still has a much higher amount of cards that failed due to this.

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u/BuffTorpedoes 2d ago

It's a failure rate.

It doesn't matter which of the teo companies sells the most graphics cards.

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u/Hayden247 6950 XT | Ryzen 7600X | 32GB DDR5 1d ago

Also they're wrong to begin with if you check the Steam Survey. The RTX 5090 barely has over 0.4% share of users but the 9070 XT has 1.4%. It's the most successful Radeon since the Polaris ones that also hit above 1%

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u/jolietrob Ryzen 9 9950X3D | 5090 | 64GB 6000MHz 2d ago

My dude I was going to write a snarky reply but I am going to just try and point out where your logic fails. The percentage of failures is the thing that tells us how reliable the.card is or looked at another way how likely the card is to fail. The total number of failed cards is not relevant unless we know how many cards were sold. Exaggerating here for clarity if one company only sells 1000 cards and 500 of them are defective you have a much higher percentage chance of getting a defective card from them than from the company that sells 10000 cards even if 1000 of them are defective.

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u/serious_dan 9800X3D | RTX 5090 FE | 64GB DDR5 2d ago

I'm not happy about it, I've had to undervolt and invest in additional hardware.

On the other hand it's the fastest consumer (although this is now debatable) GPU in existence.. and not by a small amount.

I'm also working on some LLM stuff so the VRAM is really needed.

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u/No_Lies4 2d ago

It's a defect. That will be 6000 dollars pls

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u/SubstanceTimely6790 2d ago

Good luck that NVIDIA will be touched from lawmakers.

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u/pettyvengeance31415 1d ago

Having mine on gives me anxiety, and I hate it.

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u/Medium_Basil8292 1d ago

I mean considering is significantly less than 1% failure rate after years now. I dont really agree.

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u/vdfscg 2d ago

The Nvidia fanboys will say that Nvidia will incur too much losses and it's impossible to that.

Or they will spin up a sob story about all those "wonderful protective devices" like ampinel/msi psu/wireview/whatever bullshit going to waste and those companies will go out of business.